Comment on The gentrified forest near me removed the bins. .. From their café/picnic area

• SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Who’s gonna do it an pay for it?

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  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I dunno about you, but if I see a bin in a public area, I assume some is paid to empty it. I don’t empty it myself.

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      If you took your garbage with you like a decent human, there would be no bins to be emptied and you would have better uses for that tax money.

      Where did I imply the public should be doing it….?

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      • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        So your entire argument is public bins are useless?

        You understand that people should clean up after themselves whether or not there is a bin, but offering a bin is a useful service that greatly helps people out can be compatible right.

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      • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        So, I agree with you, but them providing bins implies they’re going to be responsible and empty them, and people should feel free to use them. They shouldn’t have to try to predict which cans are fine to use and which ones aren’t.

        This post is them doing the correct thing if they aren’t going to do that, and it isn’t an issue. Put your trash in your pocket or your backpack or something. It isn’t hard.

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Who’s gonna do it and pay for it?

    Sounds like there’s a bunch of people and some kind of organisation that runs this area, after all, they made the decision to take the bins away. This is also a cafe area, so someone’s making money off this zone.

    THOSE PEOPLE ARE.

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Yes… the sign is from the forest ministry no? So the government that your tax money pays for would be dealing with it.

      If this was a businesses garbage, those usually aren’t overrun, since they have plenty of time and money to deal with the garbage.

      But government agencies…? Give your head a shake bud.

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      • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        he forest ministry no? So the government that your tax money pays for would be dealing with it.

        great. good.

        But government agencies…? Give your head a shake bud.

        ???

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  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The problem isn’t that a park removed their trash cans. The problem is that a cafe removed their trash cans.

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The cafe still has garbage cans inside, and why would the forestry speak for the cafe…?

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      • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        What makes you think the cafe still has bins inside? The OP here is claiming the bins were removed from the cafe/picnic area.

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  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    So they can’t afford the land they have in trust ?

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    • Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Wild argument. No one is “laboring for land holders”, they’re cleaning up after themselves for their own good and the good of everyone/thing around them

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  • Hawke@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Me, via my taxes I would expect.

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• abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Genuine answer here, as someone who volunteers for the parks. A lot of times the budgets are tight, depending on whose responsibility it is to clean up the area and what services are there/nearby, the staffing just isn’t available. Yeah it’s a pretty easy thing to do in theory, but in practice when it becomes “okay and 2 hours of your shift is driving out there and emptying the cans” it’s not a far leap to just “Remove the cans, make the snack stand dispose of their garbage on their own”

  I mean I get it, the cans are nice but also, like you’re an adult. Throw your trash away on your own.

  “But then people will throw it on the ground!” Okay then pay someone to stand out there and slap every idiot that thinks littering is okay because they couldn’t find a can in 10 seconds.

  It’s common decency in plenty of places around the world to take your garbage with you until you find a can. It’s not hard.

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  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    It’s common decency in plenty of places around the world to take your garbage with you until you find a can.

    But you’ve removed all the cans rather than fix your budgeting problems.

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I’m sure the parking lot or your house has one. Why do you think other people should pay for your laziness to dispose of your own garbage?

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      • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        That’s the function of the parks service. And it’s taxpayer money, so it’s my money paying for it too.

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      • macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        With that logic, why go to this park? The parking lot is outside and with nature and your house would have trees and nature around. So we should just all stay home near our trashcans. Ridiculous.

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  • mmddmm@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    That’s literally the patio of a commercial place that sells food enclosed in trash.

    If they rely on volunteers to clean the trash, a lot of people are doing lots of things very wrong.

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• Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Because that would mean employing someone to empty them regularly, and as most woodland is few and far between in this country most woodland owners deem that an unnecessary expense.

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  • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    There’s a cafe and forestry workers, is it that time consuming?

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    • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      And how do they get the garbage to the dump? You would need vehicles, insurance, garage, maintenance departments… it all snowballs.

      Just be responsible for your own garbage, not a hard concept.

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      • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        The cafe will have a contract with someone to take away waste, this waste could be included.

        I totally agree people should take away rubbish that they create, unfortunately many dont.

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    • Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      In this instance, yes, but which is why I said the cafe worker should have an internal bin for customer usage. In most other cases there is no one on site for weeks at a time.

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      • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Didn’t realise visits would be so irregular, so I apologise for the sarcasm.

        Also hate that people are shit.

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