Comment on The gentrified forest near me removed the bins. .. From their café/picnic area
Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I used to work for the Woodland Trust and believe that this is the right thing to do. Bins in woodlands do not get emptied often and will often overflow and attract unwanted pests like rats. Rats will also eat the eggs of ground nesting birds and cause other environmental issues.
If they are selling food on site then the food vendor should have a bin that their customers can use inside their cabin/cafe and dispose of the waste daily as part of the service.
This is right by the cafe/site office/car park though. The reception desk is about 20m to the right and staffed during daylight hours year round.
Not like it’s in the middle of nowhere.
I get your point, there are very few bins elsewhere (mostly by the other car parks) and that’s fine. It’s just that the place that gives you rubbish makes it hard to responsibly get rid of it.
Isn’t there a bin at the cafe?
I think that’s the problem. I interpret it as the cafe removed their bins.
It’s a sign from the forest ministry, they removed their bins.
Why on earth would you think a sign from the ministry of forestry would be speaking for and removing a cafes bins…?
Read the fucking sign for fucks sales.
May I ask the name of this place? I’d like to pull it up on Google Maps and have a look at the layout.
It’s not like paper and plastic wrappers are heavy or bulky. Just hold onto it or put it your pocket until you get home or find a bin elsewhere.
So empty them.
Just take your garbage home.
I’m already going home.
Hawke@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Think I found the problem— why not do the obvious thing and empty them more often?
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Who’s gonna do it an pay for it?
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
I dunno about you, but if I see a bin in a public area, I assume some is paid to empty it. I don’t empty it myself.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
If you took your garbage with you like a decent human, there would be no bins to be emptied and you would have better uses for that tax money.
Where did I imply the public should be doing it….?
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Sounds like there’s a bunch of people and some kind of organisation that runs this area, after all, they made the decision to take the bins away. This is also a cafe area, so someone’s making money off this zone.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yes… the sign is from the forest ministry no? So the government that your tax money pays for would be dealing with it.
If this was a businesses garbage, those usually aren’t overrun, since they have plenty of time and money to deal with the garbage.
But government agencies…? Give your head a shake bud.
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
The problem isn’t that a park removed their trash cans. The problem is that a cafe removed their trash cans.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The cafe still has garbage cans inside, and why would the forestry speak for the cafe…?
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
So they can’t afford the land they have in trust ?
Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
Wild argument. No one is “laboring for land holders”, they’re cleaning up after themselves for their own good and the good of everyone/thing around them
Hawke@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Me, via my taxes I would expect.
abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Genuine answer here, as someone who volunteers for the parks. A lot of times the budgets are tight, depending on whose responsibility it is to clean up the area and what services are there/nearby, the staffing just isn’t available. Yeah it’s a pretty easy thing to do in theory, but in practice when it becomes “okay and 2 hours of your shift is driving out there and emptying the cans” it’s not a far leap to just “Remove the cans, make the snack stand dispose of their garbage on their own”
I mean I get it, the cans are nice but also, like you’re an adult. Throw your trash away on your own.
“But then people will throw it on the ground!” Okay then pay someone to stand out there and slap every idiot that thinks littering is okay because they couldn’t find a can in 10 seconds.
It’s common decency in plenty of places around the world to take your garbage with you until you find a can. It’s not hard.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
But you’ve removed all the cans rather than fix your budgeting problems.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I’m sure the parking lot or your house has one. Why do you think other people should pay for your laziness to dispose of your own garbage?
mmddmm@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
That’s literally the patio of a commercial place that sells food enclosed in trash.
If they rely on volunteers to clean the trash, a lot of people are doing lots of things very wrong.
Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Because that would mean employing someone to empty them regularly, and as most woodland is few and far between in this country most woodland owners deem that an unnecessary expense.
SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
There’s a cafe and forestry workers, is it that time consuming?
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
And how do they get the garbage to the dump? You would need vehicles, insurance, garage, maintenance departments… it all snowballs.
Just be responsible for your own garbage, not a hard concept.
Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
In this instance, yes, but which is why I said the cafe worker should have an internal bin for customer usage. In most other cases there is no one on site for weeks at a time.