Comment on no ragrets

peregrin5@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is anecdotal, but most every labdoo I’ve met has been absolutely neurotic, though there may be a correlation with off tilt owners as well.

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  • tempest@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    All the energy of the lab with all the problems of a poodle

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  • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We need further study

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    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      However, since this mix is a mix of two very smart dogs, they themselves are highly intelligent and likely to destroy or chew if not properly mentally and physically fulfilled.

      Interesting section from the wikipedia article en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labradoodle#Appearance_and_…

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      • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That sounds like Russel Terriers, also a dog breed that has a reputation for being bad dogs, but really it’s bad owners who don’t know what they signed up for, it’s a dog that needs to have proper time spent with it.

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• masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The guy originally bred them as a hypoallergenic guide dog, and then they exploded in popularity.

  The article basically paints the picture that the original guy bred them the right way (I don’t see how), but since then a bunch of unscrupulous breeders and puppy mills have turned two smart, somewhat inherently well behaved, breeds: labs and poodles, to a breed that is more chaotic and dependent (again, I don’t see how that’s any different from what he did or what most dogs aee like).

  The article isn’t exactly well written or researched. It mostly just quotes him and throws in a couple quotes from Kennel Associations and Facebook pages. Provides no information on where this fits in the wider context of dog breeding.

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  • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The article basically paints the picture that the original guy bred them the right way (I don’t see how),

    Speculation, but couldn’t he have selectively bred only the smartest, well behaved offspring, while breeders looking to make a quick buck might just breed make as many as possible without regard to temperament?

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    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Backyard breeders” tend to breed for looks, so he “created” a great breed that happened to be fucking adorable and then people started targeting the adorable without as much care for the temperament.

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I mean possibly, the article describes him trying to train standard poodles as guide dogs for years without success, and then he crossed one of them with his boss’ lab.

      So maybe? But also, isn’t that what unscrupulous breeders are going to do anyways? Like I don’t see how this breed makes puppy mills better or worse, it seems like it would just change the breeds they target.

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• frickineh@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Puppy mills. Any time a breed gets popular, those pieces of shit will start breeding any two dogs they can find with no consideration for temperament or health, and idiots pay through the nose for them. Then they’re shocked when the dog they were promised would be smart and affectionate is anxious and aggressive.

  I had a rescue doodle that came from a puppy mill that shut down, and he was in horrific shape. He physically couldn’t sit for probably a year because his hips were in so much pain. I took him to a groomer and she had to shave him before and after his bath because he was so filthy and matted. He jumped at every loud noise for years. He was also incredibly gentle and sweet once he trusted us, but it was clear that the woman who owned him only cared about the state of the puppies, and kept the parents in appalling conditions.

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• IMongoose@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Turns two very good breeds into a mystery box. The breeders claim that they are hypoallergenic, which is not guaranteed, and they claim that they don’t need to be groomed, but they usually do. Most reputable breeders don’t breed them so they are usually in worse health than pure bred dogs from a reputable breeder for more money.

  Basically, they are a scam. The puppies sure are cute though.

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• chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-49826945

  TL:DR, mental conditions, health issues, and bandwagoning by unscrupulous breeders who cross any breed with poodles to “be the first”

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