Comment on Anon is a gamer

endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Except when they’re stupid too. In the tutorial area of Horizon: Zero Dawn they have you climb a wall. The handholds are marked with white and yellow.

  Except it’s evening in game and the color grading effect makes everything a shade of orange. The colors aren’t distinguishable and the shapes of handholds are still new. Took me two hours to figure it out. I knew I had to climb the wall, but where to do it and where to go on the wall was a mystery.

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  • Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    No offense but I don’t think this is a dev problem, seeing how so many people went through it no problem and it took you two hours.

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    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Poor color/contrast can be an accessibility issue. Some games come with colorblind modes that adjust light and color hues, to provide an option for players who have difficulty with that.

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      • homicidalrobot@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Both horizon games have excellent colorblind modes and a button that highlights climbable points with high contrast. The paint is only visible without using this mode in the very first tutorial areas or on long/time-limited climbing segments. The game tries very hard to cater to a wide audience, and people still bandwagon on it relentlessly.

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    • bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Or perhaps devs could instead make sure their other efforts don’t hide things? Especially in the tutorials?

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      • Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I just watched playthroughs of the game, including the tutorials, and the only thing I have to say is “how did you get stuck on it for two hours”. This is like the cuphead journalist level. Each interactable / climbable stands out in annoyingly bright orange paint. No portion of the day hides it - even the orange hue you describe. Like how?

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  • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Hey guys, I found one of those stupid gamers! ☝️😅

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    • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      (someone sticks their neck out
      immediately gets chopped)

      Well done

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  • droporain@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Go go screen brightness maximum!

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• victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Don’t make games for stupid people, please. They are ruining it for the rest of us.

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  • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Common saying over here: "money does need to be taken away from the idiotsx

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    • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Is that a common mantra of the gaming industry? Sounds fucking exploitative. Which studio are you with? I’d like to boycott. ✔️

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      • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Its common mantra in every industry that interacts with customers.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I can see where that shit comes from though.

    Half the games these days are so fucking cluttered you need shit like that and “detective vision” or whatever to even distinguish the interactable objects from the scenery. The later Tomb Raider reboots are the fucking worst for this.

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    • victorz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I mean, sure, but there’s a limit. If you provide the yellow indicators, don’t pause the game. If you don’t provide any indicators, you need a longer tutorial phase. But don’t be on the nose like in this post. It’s obnoxious to the immersion.

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      • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It is, but I’m struggling to think of many games that do all those things like that, and certainly not past an initial tutorial.

        Far worse is the puzzle part of every action game that gives you the goddamn solution before you’ve even had ten seconds to think about it. God of War Ragnarok is by far the worst offender for this in recent memory. You couldn’t turn it off at all.

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      • owl@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It would be cool to have an adaptive game, that notices the player looks around and walks, dont have to explain that, but maybe I need to… no they picked up the can no need to explain that. Oh, seems like they don’t know they need to throw the cable into the puddle to close the circuit to open the door, my time to explain sth.

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  • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    They ain’t fish hunting Jeff, they hunting’ WHALES

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• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I’m also a game dev, and I prefer clever level design over the yellow paint.

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  • endeavor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Had a pretty big streamer in a vr game rip off the headset in anger after being stuck in area eith a pipe that could easily fit a human who slightly crouched. Also there was a sign there with a button on the controller and crouching human next to it.

    There also was a tooltip that says “you can crouch in real life or use a button to save your knees.”

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