Jeez I really wonder what industry y’all work in that you think the entire fucking energy grid can be remade in 4 years.
Comment on Caption this.
GrymEdm@lemmy.world 4 days ago
“I hope this medal makes up for 2024 being the year of highest oil production in US history. Which happened in defiance of all the climate science you’ve been trying to tell us about. You know, as part of the years of science education this award honors.”
someguy3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Buddy. We’ve known about this problem since the 1970’s.
someguy3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Where did I say we didn’t? Holy Lemmy never lets me down in how they misread.
The problem is everyone expects the Dems to solve it in one term. Now it’s Biden’s fault that he didn’t solve it in his one term. You know, remake the entire energy grid and turn over the entire vehicle fleet in his 4 years.
theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
No, people expect the Dems to not exponentially make problems worse, since that’s their only function based on the last 80 years of their actions. Biden failed to do that simple function, and signed off more public lands to oil companies than trump and Bush Jr combined.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
Oh yeah we will just keep waiting and watch them do significantly less than the bare minimum until the famines begin. Then, we will do something about it I’m sure.
someguy3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Every time they run on an environmental policy, they lose. Every time they implement an environmental policy, they lose. And you’re amazed they aren’t gun ho about it? Like they just lost despite the green energy in the IRA. And Trump won with drill baby drill. Do you think Dems will run on it next time? Fuck no they won’t. They won’t touch it with 10 foot pole. They will run on “It’s the economy, stupid.” If you want environmental policy, you need to give them consistent and overwhelming victories.
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
Yeah so we should dismantle our political parties. They clearly don’t care about us and are willing to let us die horrible deaths. They do not serve us, they serve their donors and we put up with it for now.
NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 4 days ago
When has someone from the two major parties ran on environmental policy?
GrymEdm@lemmy.world 4 days ago
4 years? Climate scientists have been warning the world about climate change for about half a century, and urgently for a few decades. Bill Nye specifically has videos going back at least 13 years.
Don’t just blame the 2017-2021 Trump presidency either for the current high, if that is what you mean by your “reworking the energy grid/vehicles in 4 years” argument. Oil production hit it’s lowest since the 50’s under Bush Jr. then climbed again dramatically through Obama’s 2 terms. Then the Biden presidency started after a year of “low” production (that was actually higher than anything pre-2017) before climbing again steeply during the last 4 years. This is a problem of both parties, and the worst of it has happened in the last 13 years of which 9 were under a Dem president.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
wasn’t most of the fossil fuel increase under the obama admin an increase in natural gas? Rather than oil/coal, in order to replace, said infrastructure, as it’s cleaner.
MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 days ago
May be cleaner to burn but we’re getting it by fracking which is terrible.
someguy3@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I think you’ve horribly misread what I said.
The chain is about Biden and his 4 years. People want the Dems (Biden in this case) to solve the whole literal problem in their term. In the case of Biden, it was 4 years. 2 years really when you consider he only had the House or Reps for 2 years.
Both parties? We all know the GOP isn’t going to do shit. They will do the exact opposite, actually. So it’s only Dems.
Past that I have no idea what point you’re trying to make. US oil production is not US oil usage. It was the fracking boom that increased production. As for dips, then there was the 2008 great recession and covid which changed everything for a few years each. Like you’re focused on wrong fry, small fry, and taking it out of context. Obama? Guess what Obama learned from Gore? That running on an environmental policy was a losing proposition. He focused on health care. His thanks for that was to lose the house for the next 6 years. Guess the left didn’t want anything for 6 years of his presidency.
GrymEdm@lemmy.world 4 days ago
US oil production is not US oil usage. Explain. Do you think the oil disappears or doesn’t affect climate because it’s not burned in the US? Why wouldn’t I hold US policymakers accountable for oil being produced under their watch, even if it is exported?
As for dips, then there was the 2008 great recession and covid which changed everything for a few years each. Look at the chart. The decline started in the mid-80’s, and reached the bottomed in 2005. By about 2001 it was the lowest since 1950. Years before the 2008 crash. You are right that the drop during Trump’s last year coincides with the onset of COVID, but it rises again as early as the summer of 2020. And continues unabated into Biden’s presidency and last year.
That running on an environmental policy was a losing proposition. Obama was already elected into his 2nd term when oil production started climbing quicker than ever before at the end of 2012.
Nothing I’m seeing in the data suggests that Dems were meaningfully impeding/capping oil production. You may say it’s because the environment is a losing political proposition (and you may be right). But in doing so you’re just assigning a reason fir the trends and timing that show dual-party responsibility.
Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Remember when Reagan took the solar panels off the White House? After Jimmy Carter was talking about how important the environment is? This fight has been so much longer than that. Its been over fifty years.
someguy3@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Sigh. People are blaming Biden because he didn’t solve it in his 4 years. “We elected him why isn’t it solved?!? Protest no vote!”
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
you and me both my friend, you and me both.
People, throughout all of the cool things they have done throughout history, are also the single stupidest organism to ever fucking exist and i cannot express my rage over how stupid people can be without being banned.
So, please, random lemmy users reading this, reactionary engagement is bad, use critical thinking, and don’t use quippy retorts. They don’t actually do anything.
People just want to watch the world burn, and so do i, not because i think my version of the world is better, but because it brings me enjoyment when i get to see people suffer the results of their choices. I will do nothing to stop you, and laugh all the way down. The world is in your hands my friend, choose wisely.
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
I hope this medal makes up for 2024 being the year of highest oil production in US history.
i’m actually curious to know how it compares to global production. With the war in ukraine and what not, kicked a HUGE export market right off a cliff.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 days ago
This is just depressing…
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
It is.
And the man ain’t subtle about it.
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Somehow in spite of his negative comments his accomplishments still get recognition from the authority structure. Whereas in the social mediasphere if he so much as Liked a disapproved tweet he would be crowd-demonized and his career would mean nothing.
lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
I think that, vocal complainers aside, he’s still overall fairly popular. A popular white man saying wise stuff is a great opportunity to signal how committed you are to science without having to put actually significant amounts of money on the line or entering the minefield that is angering the anti-“woke” crowd. He’s a safe investment in public appearances.
Doesn’t mean they’ll have to listen to him. He gets a more sombre version of the Jester’s Privilege that allows him to say whatever he wants, they’ll nod and applaud and perform all the gestures of approval, but they won’t actually change anything.
The other half of it is probably the Internet Outrage culture that sees inciting content get more engagement and boosted visibility in a self-perpetuating cycle of upset. Legitimate criticism drowns in a sea of bullshit, everyone’s pissed off and we’re all easily swept up in the current of emotion. If we’re not mad at one person, we’re mad at the people pointlessly or excessively mad at them. If we try to stem against that, we’re dogpiled by loud complainers while quiet agreement leaves an upvote and moves on.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Youtube is insisting I sign in to prove my age before I can watch that video.
Who? Corporate executives?
chuymatt@startrek.website 2 days ago
It has SWARES!! SWARES, I tell you!