Submitted 6 days ago by schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
Situation: Someone makes a post asking a question. I spend time answering it. Then the post is deleted.
I can no longer access the post and therefore can not find the author to block them.
What I do have is a link to an empty page.
How do I find the author?
You are actively taking time out of your day to block a person who didn’t stick around long enough to hear you out
You need to go outside and touch grass. Get a girlfriend or boyfriend, those are fun too
This is pitiful
I guess if your median reply is 20 words long, yeah, it would seem pitiful. But some people actually put effort into their conversations.
A would never block someone deciding to remove his post. It is pitiful to do it
Shrug, cancel your reply, move on. Be a goldfish.
For past deletions, probably no easy way.
For future deletions, just spin up your own instance and ignore delete requests.
Some instances are slow handling deletions or don’t honour them at all….
How horrible. Which ones?
I would either copy the name into your reply OR open the post in another tab that you keep open until your satisfied.
I rarely pay attention to the name of the person unless I recognize it through other conversations. I respond to the content and intent. I've had the same thing happen to me on various platforms over the many years, where I started a reply and when I hit submit it got an error because they deleted. Just move on, why hunt someone down for something that may or may not have even been on purpose? Revenge for time lost seems... well. Let's just say this post may be more in the heat of the moment and not thinking how it looks.
Let’s just say this post may be more in the heat of the moment and not thinking how it looks.
Meh. I’m not looking for revenge, I just don’t want to waste my time on this person again who, from other comments on the thread, does this often enough to be flagged by other users.
Excellent suggestion, !Canaconda@lemmy.ca !
Hm… interesting. Did you know your userid doesn’t autopopulate?
! is for communities, @ is for users. Example: @schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works.
you’re not gonna delete this are you?
Can’t be deleted… Because it was never real
You can tag users, and that tag will then appear next to their username on all their posts and comments.
Of course that won’t help retrospectively, but if a user keeps posting and deleting the same thing you can tag them when you notice, and then when they do it again you can see the tag you gave them previously.
this is not really a solution and it’s not gonna work if you use an app. but i just use this browser addon+@ called hoardy web to save every page i visit locally. then i can revisit that page later on.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking might be a partial solution. Thanks for the tip!
Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 days ago
Hopefully there isn't a way. I get your need to find their identity, but think how that could be used for other purposes. If I decide I want to remove something, or edit it, or whatever, that should favor me, not preservation of my past activities. Yes, the internet never forgets, except it does if the content isn't viewed enough (RIP a lot of the old web).
Anonymity should be highest priority. It sucks when it's used for nefarious purposes, or just annoying ones. Maybe the person had second thoughts and didn't realize anyone had seen it yet. Maybe they're revising a new post to be clearer. Maybe they'll see this post and realize what happened, and tell you they're sorry.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
One of the comments on the post was, “Hey, didn´t you post this a few days ago then delete it?” so this makes me think this guy is a serial offender.
Maybe it should be up to moderators to block them? But how would anyone report? Seems flawed. The system can be too heavily weighted towards control by the user and thereby allow bad actors. There needs to be some form of accountability.
Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 days ago
Was this the one about video games playing it safe?
I wrote a rather detailed reply and it was deleted before I got to post it. Super lame
Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 days ago
But there's the key. Enough times and someone recognizes the name and actions. It's up to those who did remember who it was to reach out to moderation to take the next steps.
I just prefer protecting the regular user first and letting a few offenders get away with things until they make it obvious who they are. The whole innocent until proven guilty thing. Making it so any user can track down any other user and come after them feels like the wrong side of this.
seathru@quokk.au 6 days ago
Should, yes. But just FYI; Lemmy does not work that way. Deletion/edit requests are solely up to the instance to comply with.
ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I may be in the minority, but I do feel like that is teaching people the wrong lesson. People should be thinking before they post and treating this like an open public square. It was one of the first rules of the internet back when it started. People can easily create throw away accounts for questions they are uneasy about a question.
One of the things reddit still has on the fediverse is that they are a repository of free knowledge. If this place is treated like snapchat or instagram stories, then it may never really grow.
Also if the idea is that everything gets purged every year or so because people’s instances can’t handle the data, that’s also fine, but it should be something we become aware is just the culture of the fediverse.
I do think if that becomes the culture, that people would be less likely inclined to interact, post and try to build something that can easily just be taken down. This topic comes up often enough that it does seem to worry people.
jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 days ago
Social media is ideally meant to be ephemeral, like a conversation you have over a gaming table. We should rather get used to things disappearing.
deadcream@sopuli.xyz 6 days ago
Everything you do on fediverse is public by design and is exchanged with other servers.
The only way to be “anonymous” is to make sure that your account is not connected to your real identity. However everything your account does will still be transparent.