Submitted 7 months ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to games@lemmy.world
Two games keep surfacing more than any other, Starfield, which landed a singular nomination for Best RPG, and Hogwarts Legacy, which got exactly zero nominations acros...
“One TGA Nomination between Starfield and Hogwart’s Legacy” is an odd way to say Hogwart’s Legacy got zero.
Did they just really need to get that game’s title into the story for SEO or something?
I mean, he talked about both games. It seems like neither one alone was enough for an opinion article, so he wrote about both.
Sort of a nothingburger article. He says that they didn’t get nominated, then says they probably didn’t deserve to get nominated. Even people that liked the games agree neither should’ve been nominated.
Maybe if the games did anything, uh, interesting. Didn’t play Hogwarts because I can give 0 fucks about the H Potter universe. Starfield was definitely one of the Bethesda games of all time. Just a smattering of mechanics stolen from other games and simplified. It was fun but by no means anything to write home about. Put about 140 hrs—will probably not play it ever again. Did put 120 int BG3, will probably play again in a couple months.
Hogwarts was fun, not really all that groundbreaking in any particular way but it was a good take on that universe for sure.
Hogwarts legacy was good until the hype wore off and then you notice that it’s not very good story/gameplay wise and the whole game coasted on the castle itself.
Oddly the same with Starfield.
It was good until you notice the game doesn’t have any depth. 1000+ planets but they’re all window dressing.
is there an award for best music? cause starfield should win that
and i cant believe hogwarts didnt get 1 nomination. that was a fantastic game and it made my mother so happy to be a witch in the harry potter world and explore hogwarts
The problem with HL is that it had very little too offer beyond “you’re a witch at Hogwarts”. They put together a great setting… then did nothing with it. It’s a huge pity and a great waste of something that could’ve been amazing.
I absolutely liked the castle, was very cool, but aside from a few story missions it didn’t feel like you were in school.
You can run around at night without issue, didn’t have to attend certain classes until you wanted. Maybe some more persona style social simulation aspects mixed in would help. Idk.
It’s a heavy year so I can understand Hogwarts being left off especially since people have a reason to dislike. Very loved by the casual audience (where I am at least) but I don’t think any of my gamer friends cared for it that much.
I’m pretty surprised it didn’t get any nominations. I guess it didn’t do anything revolutionary, but it was a polished open world rpg with a good story and world building. Personally I think it’s partly because TOTK is given too much praise.
it being loved by the casual audience made me think it would for sure be nominated for something
Outside of all the drama around the game’s launch, I’ve heard nothing about hogwarts legacy, even from HP fans.
jedibob5@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s kinda crazy how quickly people just… stopped talking about Starfield after release. Like, even if it ended up being bad or disappointing, people would’ve at least still been talking about it in that capacity.
Starfield was one of the most hyped releases in years, at least since Cyberpunk, yet when it finally released, it seems like the entire gaming world played it for a few days, collectively decided, “eh, this is alright I guess,” then moved on. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the mood towards a game shift so rapidly from massive hype to complete indifference…
Renacles@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
I think discussion around it just became toxic, you can’t really say anything about Starfield without a bunch of people hijacking the conversation to talk about how much they hate it.
jedibob5@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Maybe I just don’t look at the right parts of the internet to end up seeing it, but I haven’t even really seen anyone talking about hating it.
Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 7 months ago
That’s what hype does. Hype can be good if the end product lives up to it, or the hype isn’t so potent. Tears of the Kingdom comes to my mind for this. The hype was more like “it’s coming, we think it’s going to be cool” and a couple of gameplay vids. Then their reputation combined with the understatement of how good the game actually was created a wildfire of good hype.
Starfield was like “PREPARE YOURSELVES FOR THE BEST GAME EVER MADE, IN THE WORKS FOR HALF A DECADE, YOU’LL NEVER PUT IT DOWN, GAME OF THE YEAR GUARANTEED” and created a ton of bad hype. Bad hype is good for sales, but creates unrealistic expectations and makes a lot more people go “meh” once they find out what it is.
Let me tell you a secret: bad hype is intentional. All that matters to a studio is how much they sell, not that players continue playing.
Bad hype makes players stop talking about a game pretty quickly.
ThunderingJerboa@kbin.social 7 months ago
But didn't TOTK also have the issue that to some it felt like an "expansion pack" (Probably closer to a switch's version of Majora's Mask, where many assets are reused and remixed with a new gameplay element added). While it was a good game its probably not as revolutionary as BOTW. It also doesn't help it was the switch's first 70$ title.
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I mean, the only game on the GOTY list where the hype is still going is Baldurs Gate 3. At least thats how it feels to me. Granted Im not into nintendo games as I once was both the new Zelda and Mario felt like they flew by me. Maybe it was the stacked year. maybe I didnt have as much time for gaming or maybe Im not seeing them much on the internet. BG3 sure feels like its cementing itself into the 2023 zeitgeist.
Carighan@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Well calling Starfield impressive but also immediately-boring would be a massive understatement.
It almost feels like a benchmark. With all the gameplay depth and immersion that goes along with running one. It’s not bad at what it does, quite the opposite in fact. It’s stellar. But there’s just so little to it, despite the massive world fulll of blips and bits. It’s Skyrim driven to an insane extreme: Even wider, even grander, even more impressive. And even more shallow. Much more shallow.
stewsters@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This is where I was. Decent game, just lost interest after like 2 weeks. There was a bit too much fishing around in the inventory and clicking through menus.
There were definitely a few cool moments in it, but I think they got to engrossed in the procgen planets to really give it all that handcrafted feel. Having 1000 planets forced the content to be too spread out. And other games have been out for years that handle the procgen better.
7/10 review guy was right. Decent game with some cool parts, but also a lot of issues and annoyances.
Aganim@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Funny thing is that when Morrowind came out using the grandfather of their current engine, they even advertised how every single stone was hand-placed and how that made the world feel more alive than a procedurally generated world. Guess some things still hold true.
jedibob5@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yeah this about sums up my feelings on it. The main story seemed alright from what I experienced, and the characters seemed fairly interesting. Better-written than FO4, at least. I was particularly charmed by the PC’s parents that you get when you take that one perk at character creation.
But the exploration just feels… dull and empty. Surveying planets just felt like a chore, and any particular landing spot on a planet was just a few cookie cutter lairs scattered among a bunch of nothing. Didn’t feel like you were actually discovering anything interesting.
kautau@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I feel like the same thing thing happened with FO4 until the new mod tools came out. Like I bought starfield, it’s ok, but IMO it won’t hit it’s stride as a game I play frequently until there are a bunch of mods to improve QoL