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• reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  which is why any opensource project should have strict restrictions about how companies are allowed to use it.

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  • brendansimms@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    big companies can (currently) legally pirate books/movies/media from torrenting sites in order to train ai algos. Source: Meta Lawsuit

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Indeed, the courts have shockingly given a pass to torrenting down unauthorized copies to the LLM companies, versus how they destroyed some lives of private individuals for similar behavior…

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  • sfgifz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Doesn’t really stop them from ignoring it anyway.

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• sirico@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Tail as old as land

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• infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Tech guy discovered enclosure.

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• LemmyBruceLeeMarvin@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Something something capitalist something extracting wealth from other people’s labour…

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• melfie@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Using copyleft licenses for closed models is clearly against the spirit of the licenses if the users don’t have access to the source code that includes the original copyleft works. Even open weight models aren’t really the source code, and are more akin to a compiled binary. The source code is all the training data and code used to train the model such that anyone can build on it and train new models.

  I’m not a lawyer and am not sure how well existing copyleft licenses like GPL or CC-SA would stand up in court to enforce this, but if they don’t, then stronger licenses that explicitly cover works being used as training data need to become more common.

  I’ve seen the argument that the models are just learning from the data in the same way a human would. That’s nonsense. It’s not like they’re creating a sentient being with its own agency that can tell them to fuck off if it wants. These companies are running a software pipeline against copyrighted IP to convert it into a derivative work that is now supposedly wholly owned by said company, but the reality is that it’s collectively owned by everyone who contributed to the copyleft training data.

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• TheDeadInternet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They should be sued for theft and plagiarism.

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  • ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes, the courts will save us!

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  we built the library, someone else is charging admission

  So fucking close to getting it…

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  • ThunderQueen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If youre suggesting that this is the grander issue with capitalism, you arent wrong but i think that subtext is already there. Its sort of a cascade effect. AI is just the latest iteration of manufactured scarcity/convenience.

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• Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I did fine without AI, they can charge what they want.
  Not buying it anyway

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• HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  current wave of AI isn’t even new technology

  We had predictive text. We had neural networks. We had both for more than few decades. Someone just decides “what if predictive text was built on neural network?” and it worked much better than old solution. In fact old solution worked pretty much like one-layer neural network.

  TechBros literally took something we already had, made it more expensive and sold it to investors.

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  • themagzuz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ehh not exactly. the current wave within ai was started in 2017 with the google paper “attention is all you need”, which introduced the transformer architecture (the T in GPT). deep neural networks were still used for NLP before this, it was just LSTMs instead of transformers, which had various limitations

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• Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  anyone who starts sentence with “bro” can f-off

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  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bro why tho

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• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Quite a bit more than mildly infuriating.

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• tracyspcy@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  on Reddit it would be something like r/AccidentalAlienation

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• Kaligalis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The “you are replaceable” thing is older than everyone currently alive. It hasn’t been invented by the AI tech bros.
  Also, the library is still out there. You still can ignore the rent-seeking middle men and use it directly with your own natural neural network.

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  • Syrc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also, the library is still out there. You still can ignore the rent-seeking middle men and use it directly with your own natural neural network.

    …but you have to jump between a billion hoops to get there because now it’s all buried between AI results and SEO crap.

    Assuming it’s even still there and accessible in the same way, if its site was enshittified (did someone say Reddit?) you might need to go through additional hoops even after you actually find it.

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    • Kaligalis@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Reddit is a bad example because it’s still readable without an account and almost uncensored outside politics. You can also still query Reddit explicitly reasonably fine by adding “Reddit” to your search in DuckDuckGo or Google.
      Reddit’s enshittification is in the optional buyable reactions (which make posts and comments way more visible than voting is able to), their automated moderation, and making automated moderation for sub mods harder.
      Using it as a library is what didn’t get enshittified.

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• VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you did it for free, what boss is replacing you?

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  • notabot@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They don’t want to replace the you that is producing free content for them to ingest, they want to replace the you that earns enough money to live.

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• Impractical_Island@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I never had a license for having a big dick til they made it a requirement requestement that make it do what it as it do be it for cuz that’s what it be.

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  • Impractical_Island@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sorry, lost some blood to my brain for a second when I was thinking of small land mammals.

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• fxdave@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s cheap. I don’t have good enough hardware to run these models anyways.

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• baller_w@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Socialize it.

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