When in time did America gave up trying to be great? Gave up as the example for the world? And now we are on our backs and refuse to get up like Bender off Futurama or a turtle?

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• Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Around the time that we decided to subjugate the natives, steal their land, and bring in slaves. America has only been the land of the free for rich whites.

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  • chocrates@piefed.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Agreed.

    America was a major war profiteer off of ww2 And we rode that high for a long time.

    America has never been “good” or moral.

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    • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      America has never been “good” or moral.

      Super-important major realisation.

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  • JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Damn, that’s perfectly correct, but… I was anticipating a bit of white-washing??

    Natives, always…… please leave us alone?

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• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Reagan through the 90s was the period where things visibly degraded to a joke of what the country once was. 9/11 was at once a direct symptom of our own fuckery over the preceding decades, as well as the final nail in the coffin that pushed large sections of our political landscape towards fascism. It was nascent for a while, but everything became fairly overt in 2016.

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  • Aetherial@nord.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Agreed on all points. I would argue it became overt 8 years prior; Obama was not the saint some like to think he was.

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• Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Frankly, day one. The idea that America was ever an example to the rest of the world is American revisionism. If you actually look at American history you’ll see the current American administration is very in line with the way we’ve always been.

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• TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The US was built on a foundation of genocide and slave ownership. It was never great.

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  • richieadler@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And its foreign policy is destroying countries for profit.

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• Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  in a reversal of the question, op, when do you think the US was great and why?

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• hanrahan@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  When in time did America gave up trying to be great?

  what ? propaganda 101 I guess

  In saying that, I’m an Australian I went to America in 1994 thinking that, lived there for a year “went what the actual fuck”, left and never went back.

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• msokiovt@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They actually never were. It was always an empire since 1776, at the hands of the Vatican.

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  • unitedwithme@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Explain. I’ve got my tinfoil hat ready!

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• hedders@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I feel like OP is of the cusp of a realisation: "Hang on. Are we the baddies?"

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• benjirenji@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Assuming it was great at some point and people were trying, I would argue at the point when propaganda progressed far enough that enough people thought it was already great. You stop trying when you think you reached the goal. To this day no politician can afford suggesting otherwise unless it’s to make it “great again” I guess.

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