Not sure how accurate it is but given the figures I vaguely recall, this feels pretty accurate.
Realizing that the Discovery is longer than any of these ships really puts shit into perspective
Sneaky Defiant! Took me a moment.
Just some fun size comparisons
Submitted 5 months ago by Stamets@startrek.website to startrek@startrek.website
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clearedtoland@lemmy.world 5 months ago
HWK_290@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That the Defiant is as big as the entire saucer on the Constitution class is wild. I thought it was much much smaller
xyguy@startrek.website 5 months ago
It’s even funnier when you hear the Sisko’s initial description of the defiant.
It’s a warship, nothing more, nothing less.
And also
No families, no science labs, no luxuries of any kind…
Meanwhile it’s almost as big as the OG Enterprise which did in fact have a regulation size bowling alley inside.
So all that space, basically just for engines and guns on the Defiant.
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I always forget just how large the defiant is. I feel like there is rarely anything close enough in the camera shots to get a good idea of scale. Other than DS9 I mean.
Stamets@startrek.website 5 months ago
Just goes to show how much bigger all of the ships got after TOS.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Huh, somehow I always imagined the Sovereign class to be bigger than the Galaxy…
Stamets@startrek.website 5 months ago
Sovereign was more combat orienteted than the Galaxy class ship so it was heavily streamlined, giving it a smaller profile and silhouette to make for a harder target. However while not as large as the Galaxy class, it was longer. You can just barely make it out in that image due to the placement of Enterprise-E sitting just ahead of the D. Galaxy came in at 641m long but Sovereign eeked in just over at 685m making it the longest ship in the fleet at the time. I say at the time because the Crossfield class (or at least the Discovery/Glenn with their extended nacelles) comes in at 740-780m long!
nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
All I got from this is that the Galaxy is thiccc af.
youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Need the Orville in this
Aesculapius@kbin.social 5 months ago
It would be nice to see the NX-01 in there
Stamets@startrek.website 5 months ago
If I made this, I would have. The J probably not because it was from an alternate potential timeline. Then again I’d also have added stuff like the SS Botany Bay and the Europa.
thessnake03@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Throw the -J in there, just for the hell of it
deepthaw@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
I stand by my head canon that Galaxy class ships are equipped to deposit saucers on planets to establish starter colonies. It’s already basically a floating city in space.
ramble81@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Did not realize that the Intrepid class was that much smaller than a Sovereign class. I though it was maybe slightly smaller.
Stamets@startrek.website 5 months ago
Scale is always hard to tell in Star Trek when you rarely have an on screen reference.
SteleTrovilo@beehaw.org 5 months ago
I have an inexplicable fondness for the Excelsior class. Both NX-2000 and NCC-1701-B are fun to watch. I would’ve liked to see more of them.
(I know there’s a bunch in the Dominion War battle scenes, but never for very long.)
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Pictured against a sparkly holiday jumper worn by your mum.
Johanno@feddit.de 5 months ago
grue@lemmy.world 5 months ago
All it puts into perspective is how much the nu-trek folks (both Disco and JJ-Trek) lost the plot on ship size. It makes no sense that either the Discovery or the Kelvin-timeline Enterprise would be significantly different in size from the TOS Enterprise.
(This doubly pisses me off because I play Star Trek Online, where the devs implemented canon ship sizes and the Kelvin Enterprise stands out as being stupidly out of scale with the rest of the game.)
Stamets@startrek.website 5 months ago
sigh
The Discovery is specifically larger due to the unique propulsion method that they employ. The normal Crossfield-Class was seen otherwise in Strange New Worlds and has significantly shorter nacelles, backing up the theory that the Discovery/Glenn were only as long as they were due to the spore drive.
The Kelvin Enterprise was also specifically designed in response to a random incursion that destroyed one of their vessels. The Narada had been loaded with Romulan/Borg tech by the Tal Shiar as established in a canonical comic that explains what happened to Nero before they ended up going back in time. That Enterprise was also built on Earth as opposed to in space. The technology from the Narada, which was only gleaned through scanning data and debris from the attack, was then used to create the Enterprise.
Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t make sense.
Basilisk@mtgzone.com 5 months ago
I mean, I do like so-called “Nu-Trek”, but at the end of the day this is kind of a tail-wagging-the-dog response. You can explain just about anything in lore after the fact, but when the rubber hits the road the real explanation is that someone in a Hollywood design team said “We want it to be BIGGER,” and then left it to the people who cared enough to find a reason why it would be justified.
Far easier to just suspend your disbelief a bit further, I think. Yeah, Discovery is weirdly big. It also flies through space by a man infused with a giant tardigrade’s DNA sending the whole ship from place to place through willpower and a mushroom trip. If you can accept the second one, it kind of feels like the fact that the ship is a larj boye isn’t that much of a stretch.
constantokra@lemmy.one 5 months ago
Facts and memes. A wonderful combination.