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In the age of electronics, when is go to vote can I request a paper ballot instead of a machine?

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Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Patnou@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • disregardable@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    this will depend on where you are from. you should look up how to request it in your local area, and if your country doesn’t put that information online, go to your local government office and ask

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  • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Depends on where you live. Civilized places still use paper ballots, because electronic ones are practically impossible to get verifiably trustworthy.

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    • Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I didn’t even know electronic voting ballots was a thing. My state only has paper ballots.

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    • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is not true at all, it’s much easier to falsify paper votes than it is to falsify any good electronic voting system. This is a fake news perpetuated by people who are finding difficult to falsify electronic voting systems and want to, for example in Brazil the last election held with paper ballots was in 1994, and it has been demonstrated that those results were frauds, one of the elected candidates in that election has been one of the most vocal opposers to electronic voting.

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      • mrcleanup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Yeah, well we aren’t talking about Brazil. My state is all paper. There are multiple audits and there are public observers at every stage. The shit would hit the fan if it was even one ballot off. It’s a super transparent and auditable system.

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      • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes it is easier to attack papier voting systems. But these attacks don’t scale. This video by Tom Scott is 6 years old now, but every argument still stands. m.youtube.com/watch?v=LkH2r-sNjQs

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    • ViatorOmnium@piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s easier to falsify a paper election than a properly implemented digital voting system. Keyword being properly.

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      • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Elections require trust. A properly designed voting system can be understood by the average voter. That’s impossible with electronic voting.

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  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    When I vote on the machine it fills out a paper ballot for me, then I just check it and turn it in.

    It all depends on your state, city, and county and how they have it set up.

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    • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is how mine work.

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I do a similar thing: Fill out a paper form by hand, then feed it into a machine which scans it for vote counts and keeps the paper ballot for auditing purposes.

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  • HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    as someone said mailin is paper and im not sure if its still a thing because I have been doing mailin but in my state you could choose the electronic that had a paper trail reciept that showed all your selections as you went or the old hanging chad type.

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What are you talking about? We still us paper ones.

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    • jeffw@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Who is “we”?

      In the US, elections are locally run.

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  • homes@piefed.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    If you want a paper ballot, request a mail in ballot. All mail in ballots are, by necessity, paper ballot.

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Aha, this is why they’re trying to kill the mail ballot

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      • homes@piefed.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It really is. Mail in ballots are very difficult to falsify because they leave a paper trail.

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