A 12-year-old girl who suffered a lung collapse and spent four days in an induced coma has told the BBC that children should never start vaping.
Man, this destroys my argument that all 12 year olds should vape. Boy do I feel silly.
Never start vaping, says 12-year-old girl with lung damage
Submitted 7 months ago by i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk to unitedkingdom@feddit.uk
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-67081855
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DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 7 months ago
Fortunately the 13 year olds are good to vape
Declamatie@mander.xyz 7 months ago
Honestly, the minimum age for vaping should be increased to ∞.
byroon@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This is awful and I’m very sorry for the kid, but with the greatest respect who gives a fuck what this 12 year old thinks
SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Some boomers on Facebook probably
Rottcodd@kbin.social 7 months ago
So seriously - who's peddling this anti-vaping propaganda and what's their goal?
Vaping is easily the most effective way to stop smoking that's ever existed. Certainly we don't want kids to start doing it, and kids are the basis for much of the propaganda, but it's never just restricted to trying to make it so kids don't start. All of the propaganda efforts are directed toward stamping out vaping entirely, and that means that millions of people whose lives could literally be saved by switching from smoking to vaping will be denied that opportunity.
Why? Whose interests are served by denying adult smokers access to the most effective smoking cessation product ever?
galmuth@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Who’s trying to stamp out vaping entirely? All I’m reading into this article is just “Kids shouldn’t start vaping, especially if they have asthma.”
The suggested solutions I’ve seen in the news recently are things like keep the vaping displays away from kids, stop kid-friendly flavours, and make packaging less enticing - all things that they currently do for cigarettes, and all perfectly reasonable IMO.
No-one I’ve seen is proposing taking them away from adults.
PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Fuck this stop kid friendly flavor shit. I’m 40. I prefer sour flavors like apple/peach or red bull. I swear to fuck I will start smoking again to spite you paternalistic motherfuckers.
ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
“kid friendly flavors” tend to be literally everything except for “chemical tobacco flavor” and menthol. And sometimes they go after the menthol too. They’re trying to kill the whole thing.
JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Adults also like the “kid friendly” flavors. Restricting people to vape flavors that taste like ass isn’t going to help them stop smoking cigarettes that are more harmful to themselves and those around them
Whirlgirl9@kbin.social 7 months ago
I tried everything under the sun to quit smoking. It wasn't until I got myself a rig and stepped the nicotine down to zero until I was able to stop. I have remained smoke free for going on 8 years.
123@lemdro.id 7 months ago
Nicely done! Similar route for myself. I did get more addicted to my vape at first, just out of sheer convenience/not having to go outside. Realized it though and took steps to be 8 months vape free.
Do you ever crave it anymore? I smelled someone’s cigarette the other day and instantly wanted one… when I was vaping, cigs smelled awful. monkey brains are weird.
sheogorath@lemmy.world 7 months ago
If you smoke, you should be allowed to vape in an attempt to quit. But if you never smoked, fuck vaping. It’s too new to be thoroughly studied for health effects.
Rottcodd@kbin.social 7 months ago
I'm always curious - what is it that leads you to believe that you should be able to decide what other people may or may not do with their own bodies?
I've never been able to wrap my head around that whole idea. There's just no angle on it that makes sense to me.
If I presume that people do have the right to decide what other people can do with their own bodies, then we end up with self-defeating chaos, since different people have entirely different, conflicting and even contradictory, views on that.
But if I decide that they don't have that right, then... they don't have that right.
I don't see a chain of logic that can possibly lead to the conclusion that anyone does have that right, but it seems I can't turn around without running into yet another person, like you here, who blithely presumes that they do.
So really - how does that work? Inside your own mind, what's the reasoning that leads to the conclusion that you, rather than the actual people who actually inhabit the other bodies around you, should be empowered to decide what they may or may not do with their own bodies?
I just can't make sense of it.
shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 7 months ago
Well tbf vaping is also a highly effective gateway to hook the youth.
glimse@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I liked that proposal to raise the minimum age every year that was proposed in the UK. Let people quit or smoke until they die but don’t let people start smoking
FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 7 months ago
I think people should be able to dope their systems with whatever they want.
520@kbin.social 7 months ago
I think that becameban actual law in Australia.
Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 7 months ago
If I had to guess? Tobacco companies.
ForestOrca@kbin.social 7 months ago
Umm, maybe the tobacco companies? https://www.zippia.com/advice/largest-tobacco-companies/
bermuda@beehaw.org 7 months ago
Where I live I rarely see people against vaping for anti smoking usage. Mostly people I meet are against the recreational use.
Papiermache@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yeah fuck allowing children to vape but this is clearly a case of poor compliance asthma management and shit parents. Obviously some larger governmental intervention will help but the story is garbage.
Note: you can potentially ignore everything I said because I only read two paragraphs of the article and just looked at the photos of the shitty mom and kid
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 months ago
Y’all really like your vapes, huh? Jesus fucking Christ. I smoke, too, but I don’t defend tobacco.
Zeroc00l@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Dude I see your username in every comment section of every post I click on. Over 4.5k comments in 3 months! That’s impressive
sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I always see the dude that is just two eye emojis for a username.
rustyfish@lemmy.world 7 months ago
What a clickbaity bs article.
SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 7 months ago
I vape, it’s how I quit smoking. I’d prefer to smoke, but it is the lesser of two evils, and I would encourage anyone who smokes cigarettes to switch. I recently went on holiday, smashed my vape and couldn’t find a replacement. I ended up buying the disposable kind from a supermarket for the first time and I was honestly shocked at how wasteful the are - so much unnecessary plastic that goes straight into the bin. But I was more shocked by how clearly geared towards children the disposable kind are - the bright colours, the flashy lights, the super sweet flavours, the high nicotine content. The one I bought was called YOLO ffs.
i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 7 months ago
so much unnecessary plastic that goes straight into the bin.
They are technically WEEE and should be recycled. Apparently the shops which sell them are supposed to take them back for recycling - I wonder if any do! Or maybe they resent anybody who brings them back for disposal.
SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 7 months ago
I returned it to the supermarket and the checkout lady put it straight in the normal bin in front of me! I was referring to the packaging more though - a box, a leaflet, a sealed plastic bag thingy, plastic labels that have to be removed, a little plastic stopper for the mouth piece. You’re meant to get 600 puffs per vape but every one I tried died after 2 days. That’s a huge amount of waste compared to the one bottle of juice I recycle each month and the coil I throw out every two-three months.
echodot@feddit.uk 7 months ago
The proposals include:
- restricting the flavours and descriptions of vapes so they are no longer targeted at children keeping vapes out of sight of children in shops
- regulating vape packaging so they are not targeted at children
- exploring whether increasing the price of vapes will reduce the number of young people using them
- considering restricting the sale of disposable vapes, which ministers say are clearly linked to the rise in vaping in children and are incredibly harmful to the environment.
So not really very much, it’s hardly worth storming the Bastille over.
AllahFucksKids@fedia.io 7 months ago
This little retard... what's she gonna say next? Don't start doing coke at 4 and don't suck dicks with red, bleedy blisters? Yea, thanks dipshit. Good looking out. Back before modern medicine this little dipshit woulda just died and we would all just go on about our day. Now it's 2023 and this little retard has a voice and a message... too bad its retarded.
turtlepower@lemm.ee 7 months ago
How about not buying cheap Chinese shit online if it’s something you put in your body. I have been vaping for over 12 years and not once have I ever had any complications. Fuck your propaganda.
slowd0wn@kbin.social 7 months ago
I agree with you, but the article states she bought these vapes over the counter. She also had asthma and was regularly using her inhaler after vaping, which can’t be good, and also suffering a cold at the same time. Also, was 12 years old and started vaping at 9, going through a 6000-hitter in 2-3 days. As a current caper I can’t imagine burning through a vape that big unless I’m doing some serious bing drinking
turtlepower@lemm.ee 7 months ago
It’s funny how we didn’t have these problems till the big tobacco companies got involved and started peddling their shit devices in every gas station and convenience store. Vaping came about as harm reduction for those of us that can’t get off of nicotine. Anyone selling to kids needs to be given a last cigarette and stood against a lonely, bullet-riddled wall. Maybe we should do vape sales like liquor: state-run, highly regulated stores with extreme penalties for anyone selling to, or buying for, minors. No online sales PERIOD. And no more single-use/pod devices: If you can’t handle filling a tank with juice and replacing coils, get fucked.
dependencyInjection@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Bing drinking?
Is that a typo or you can the marching powder (colloquially known as Bing).
Rambler@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I’m not sure why you’re getting downvoted, I’ve been vaping since I quit the fags 10 years ago - just switched addictions! But, I do buy from what (I think) is a reputable seller - he makes it himself and puts the ingredients on the label. I’m just not quite ready to quit yet.
I’m sure some of the shit kids buy is un-regulated and it needs tighter control. It’s like weed - gonna fuck up your brain eventually - but it brings in tax I guess - so, who cares?
GuyFi@lemmy.sdf.org 7 months ago
I’ve seen people cough up blood due to the over the counter cheap stuff, you get what you pay for I suppose
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 7 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A 12-year-old girl who suffered a lung collapse and spent four days in an induced coma has told the BBC that children should never start vaping.
Sarah Griffin’s bedroom at her home in Belfast is like that of most 12-year-old girls - a dressing table littered with make-up, perfume bottles and hair straighteners, with some childhood cuddly toys on the bed.
In early September she also developed a head cold, and when combined with her vaping, it all added up to what Sarah’s doctor describes as a “perfect storm”.
“A lot of risk factors were going in the wrong direction,” says Dr Dara O’Donoghue, consultant respiratory paediatrician at the Royal Belfast Hospital for Sick Children.
“Disposable vapes at their current pocket money prices, with cartoons and bubble-gum flavour options, are far too attractive and easy for children to access,” she said.
Professor Chris Whitty, England’s chief medical officer, said marketing vapes or e-cigarettes to children was “utterly unacceptable”.
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FellowEarthling@lemmy.world 7 months ago
She had asthma and want using her inhaler. Kids shouldn’t be vaping, but there was more going on here.
PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 7 months ago
I had to check to see this was an onion article. There has to be so much more going on here.