Those seeds in your farm contain patented DNA, please pay up.
( ^-^)ノ∠※。.:*:・'°☆
Submitted 17 hours ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
https://mander.xyz/pictrs/image/3fec7b6f-e3cd-431f-842f-a6bd00b99e8c.jpeg
Comments
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
That’s not how that works. You pay when you buy the seeds.
Then there’s hybrid vigor. And I think someone figured out how to make seeds that only work for four generations… Can’t remember the details.
JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 14 hours ago
Well there’s this case where Monsanto sued a farm for replanting seeds they had a patent on.
And there’s several other cases similar to that where Monsanto has sued farmers. For instance in “David vs Monsanto”, when a farmer found out some canola plants were roundup-resistant and propogated them on his farm. Monsanto sued him for not having them removed, especially since Monsanto had a program where if they were informed, they’d removed them for farmers.
So while it’s not exactly as deceived above, it’s not far off.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
All hybrid seeds basically only work for one generation, because basic genetics.
Terminator Seedsare about 25 years old now, and aren’t actually in use anywhere.
Valmond@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
They had a kill gene so some crazy inventor wouldn’t kill humanity, or that was the reason I heard back in the day…
Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Eh kind of but just don’t buy anything and you’ll be fine. And read the actual literature and studies out there
like a pretty hot take backed by the science, there are much better bioaccumulators than comfrey
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 14 hours ago
The amount of bullshit in permaculture is tremendous. It’s why I often get in online knife-fights with permies. They do a lot of ‘their own research’. Since they’re doing their own research, they’re liable to get roped into pseudoscience claims. I once saw someone trying to sell salt water as a soil amendment. Don’t get me started on electroculture.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 10 hours ago
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 8 hours ago
LAWL. Outstanding
oeuf@slrpnk.net 16 hours ago
Why am I seeing Permaculture in my feed but when I click through I’m getting Biodynamics? Is this Schrödinger’s .gif?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 16 hours ago
Two different memes. One is in the post body.
LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 12 hours ago
i think people really idealize and fetishize non- industrial agriculture to a weird degree that is divorced from reality, like, I’m pretty sure I read the haber bosch process alone is essentially responsible for feeding half of humanity at this point, but maybe I’m wrong for thinking “there’s no way you’re getting enough fixed nitrogen to feed four billion extra people without industrial processes.” I’m pretty sure I’m not though and if you blanket replaced all capitalist agriculture with whatever you’d have mass starvation in the absence of industrial fertilizer production.
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Now I’m interested in the permaculture problematic? The moon and stuff never convinced me but from what I heard about permaculture it didn’t sound out of touch ?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 16 hours ago
See “Issues” section: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture
Zombie@feddit.uk 13 hours ago
Nothing in the issues section screams as particularly odious to me…
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
“less- or no-work gardening, bountiful yields, and the soft fuzzy glow of knowing that the garden will … live on without you” were often illusory.[
maybe that’s why I never have tomatoes
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
It’s basically a super fuzzy subject that changes as you want, and in so far as its useful it’s not new, and the parts that are new aren’t useful. Also, the guy who coined the term is a nutcase.
BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 13 hours ago
Lmao, the boiodynamics one is gold.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
Permaculture is a great alternative to unsustainable conventional ag practices. There are real benefits in terms of soil and water management and diversity and pest control. It hopes to address the shortcomings of conventional ag with soil degradation, nutrient management, water management and biodiversity.
There are flavours and variations of permaculture that are getting academically rigorous study including silvopasture, groundswales, companion planting (three sisters) etc…
Discounting permaculture because of the their cookes is like discounting medicine because of their cookes. Yes the PDC is a bit MLMy, just like Passive House certifications and courses, but there are legitimate benefits to the practices.
It was taught in my University’s Environmental Science program. All the ag focused universities do research on various aspects of it, in particular as a response to climate risks.