Submitted 1 day ago by CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in to games@lemmy.world
Someone else already explained (after watching the video) why this test is flawed.
"This is purely from a broken test. Watch the video and you’ll see that its not testing with the same power limits.
17w tests are actually 16w vs 20w+ and 35w test is 25w vs 35w
This leads to drastically higher clock speeds on both cpu and gpu as seen in the video and thus higher fps (and power draw, so lower battery life)
Thanks for linking my post, it’s a shame Tom’s hasn’t updated their post as it’s discussed in the comments there too.
I tried to make sure it got quoted by my app doesn’t do well with copying the user so I did it this way so people would know it certainly wasn’t me who saw the flaw.
If it helps UFD tech on YouTube also reported off the Tom’s Guide article, spouting the same flawed data as the headline.
Heh, my money was on it being shaders like most times this comes up. Steam+Proton gets a downloaded shader precache. Windows does it live.
Just let me boil the holy water
Not really surprising. Windows hasn’t had significant investment from Microsoft in a while, unless it’s cramming bullshit AI and telemetry “features” in.
I seriously can’t remember the last time a windows update added an actually useful feature for me. Its like they are actively avoiding making it any better at all.
Not OS, and it’s older now, but powershell is pretty great and vscode is nice.
Microsoft long ago migrated Windows away from home and recreational computer users to business machines that have non-business uses. Any optimization was ignored in favor of soaking up more value from users.
This is such a click-bait title, my God…
According to the article the only significant FPS gains are in the Performance mode. In Silent mode Bazzite has two FPS more in KCD2, and… one less in Hogwarts.
In Turbo mode, the difference is 5 FPS.
And even in Performance it’s not like you’re running at 13 FPS by default - it’s 47 in KCD2 and 50 in HL.
They even provide a nice summary themselves - on average, Bazzite gains 6.6 FPS.
What do you get in return?
Not stability:
I have 512gb model and am running on low with FSR2 on balanced. The game keeps crashing during every play sessions
And you lose A TONNE of optional game stores, including the entirety of GamePass games.
I would get it if the difference was “20 FPS on Windows” and 50 on Bazzite", but come on…
The article said the frame rates are more stable under bazzite with windows fluctuating a lot more even at low power settings.
I read through that thread you linked and I didn’t see bazzite mentioned anywhere.
Who the hell is still paying for game pass? Lol
The article said the frame rates are more stable under bazzite with windows fluctuating a lot more even at low power settings
I think that, as long as the framerate doesn’t dip below 30, a regular human won’t notice fluctuating FPS. It’s something you’ll see in benchmarks, but not in real life. For example: a friend of mine was playing Elden Ring and and Halo on the ROG Ally X and didn’t notice any issues with stability or framerate. And he’s pretty anal about this kind of stuff.
I read through that thread you linked and I didn’t see bazzite mentioned anywhere.
True, it was about Steam Deck performance. But I had similar experiences on Garuda Linux on my PC with Hogwarts. Every now and again it would just crash and burn. Got better after a Proton patch or two, but that’s the problem with Linux gaming - you never really know what you’ll get. With Windows, you don’t have that issue at all.
Who the hell is still paying for game pass?
Come on, now. You can’t be this childish.
This is such a click-bait comment, my god…
Your source for stability issues in Hogwarts Legacy is a single user in the Steam community with other users in the same thread not having issues at all. Seeing that Hogwarts Legacy is one of the most played games on Deck (ranked 11th at time of writing ), I think many more people would report issues if crashes were common.
Furthermore, your TONNE of optional game stores is one. I can‘t really think of a game store, besides Microsoft’s, that doesn‘t work on Steam Deck.
These early performance comparisons definitely have limited value for comparing Windows/Linux performance on the device. But I’m sorry to say that your arguments have even less.
losing gamepass is a plus, then you don't have to deal with windows store
What a silly thing to say… You’re not dealing with Windows Store either way.
Microsoft is the only one I can think of that doesn’t work on Linux though? What’s the tonne of stores you miss out on?
Your source is from a game from two years ago when it was new; not only does Proton get big updates all the time, but it’s far more mature in general now than it was two years ago. You lose access to Windows store, but Amazon, Epic, and GOG work through Heroic. Maybe EA and Ubisoft are a problem for some people, but those also might work through Lutris. I haven’t shopped with either in over a decade, so I’m not the best candidate to check.
Yeah, I was able to play through most of AC: Odyssey on my deck, thanks to Lutris. I also use Heroic just because I’ve never wanted to install Epic’s launcher.
My source is just an example of gaming experience on Linux.
I run Garuda (Arch-based) which is a distro “for gamers”. The experience is great, I love it. Everything works fine… most of the time.
But, until Proton got a couple of updates, I was just unable to run Mafia. Until Proton got a couple of updates, Hogwart’s would crash randomly. Right now Cyberpunk runs fine… until it crashes during loading sometimes.
That’s the gaming experience of Linux.
All that for a +6.6 FPS average, and no GamePass.
You lose access to Windows store
Windows Store is irrelevant, you lose the XBox (App)-installed GamePass games, which means that you lose access to a tonne of XBox games.
the main thing you get back is a better cpu governor to manage power consumption on 2d games. Reviews like the Phawks points out that microsoft kinda handed it off to the handheld makers to optimize for battery life. So in the instances such as getting 8hours of battery life running dead cells because the system doesnt really need to push that much to run the game, the Windows handheld is stuck on a higher performance clock and has a significantly shorter battery life time.
This would be extremely visible if more lighter games are tested, which typically aren’t for reviews like this because its not really fun to show a bunch of games all hitting 60 if you cap framerate.
the main thing you get back is a better cpu governor to manage power consumption on 2d games
Power consumption is handled by the power mode on the device. You get three modes - Silent (13W), Performance (17W), and Turbo (35W). You can switch between them at will, it’s not controlled by the game.
it’s weird, and refreshing, to find someone who actually reads the article and don’t base his comments only on the header, and also provides some additional info.
my opinion isn’t based strictly on the header. because to argue that the default is silent mode, when its very reasonable to assume that the middle tier performance mode is the default usecase, because it has a 80W/h battery when compared to typical other handhelds. Steam deck for example uses a 40W/h battery. 17W, which is seeing the chunk of the performance gain, is a very reasonable target for a 80W/h battery.
Oop, you didn’t bash my “not really anti-Microsoft stance”, prepare for downvotes, friend! :)
Told ya so ###### tm
From Xbox to LinuXbox
w8ghT@lemy.nl 2 hours ago
Not surprised! Windows is a VIRUS stemming from 10-11.