Yeah, I just graced with a glorious 0-day work week. There is no chance ANY of this “productivity” will get anywhere near workers. It’s just a new, exciting way to centralize wealth and power. And if the models get as “intelligent” as the claim they will in 5 years, then with a helping of slavery to boot, ones they are “as smart or smarter” than humans, just without pesky things like rights…
Bernie Sanders says that if AI makes us so productive, we should get a 4-day work week
Submitted 3 weeks ago by neme@lemm.ee to workreform@lemmy.world
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csh83669@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
That’s cool and all but what about minimum salary hours?
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Not enough people talk about this.
When I found out how that worked I was like
“Lemme get this straight…they get whatever they want out of you, as long as they want, exempt from overtime, for a flat yearly fee? But of course you get benefits and vacation time you are socially stigmatized from using…Yeah that’s a scam.”
What’s with the obsession with renting/owning people?!?
plyth@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Let’s use technology to benefit workers," Sanders said.
That’s Socialist thinking in a Capitalist country. He doesn’t own the means of production to change the schedules. In a Capitalist country you need the market power to negotiate for it.
So call for unionizing because the opportunity is there.
He doesn’t, so it is a distraction.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Manager: You’re right! AI Makes me as productive as half my team, so I’m firing half of them AND working a 4 day work week!
Atropos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Manager in two weeks:
Please come back, I can’t do all this myself!
tarknassus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Interesting that the article never cites or states how much AI has improved productivity - but rather focuses on the 4-day work week. Kinda strange to only look at the end outcome and ignore the cause of expecting that outcome.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bernie says a lot.
But can’t say the word GENOCIDEComradePenguin@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
He does, I saw an interview with him yesterday
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
that would be the first time, others have claimed it other times, turned out to be wrong.
So source?
veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Pfff that’s coward numbers. I’ll do you one better:
We should get a 3-day work week.
Crampon@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why you care about the opinion of a guy who took the money and ran twice?
Meme material really.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
We gave him the money. Willingly. Because we wanted a better future.
axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 2 weeks ago
fuck yeah
aaron@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
You are the capitalist society. It is all you vote for. Bernie Sanders is just the limited hangout. You surely don’t expect the rest of the world to buy it any more do you?
londos@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Got ems!
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I think that in some domains (for example, software development) one person working 40 hours is significantly more productive than two people working 20 hours each. Coordination adds a lot of overhead. There’s also the difficulty of finding a second qualified employee.
But that’s all moot anyway. Someone working 4 days is always going to earn less than someone working 5, and I’m pretty sure most Americans would choose to work more and get more money even if they could afford to work only 4.
grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
I have a 7-hour work day and a 5-day work week. I make less than I did at my previous (8.5-hour/5-day) job, but I’m much, much happier. Highly recommend working less if you can swing it.
I do agree that coordination is a PITA. But, 7 hours is doable and it’s not like I’d be actually productive for an extra hour a day. My brain goes to mush.
Some of my coworkers work longer days and take every a day off every other week. As long as they work 70 hours a biweek they’re good.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I don’t mean to say that no-one would choose to work less, or that doing so is a bad idea. Heck, I’m unemployed and not actively looking for work right now myself.
jj4211@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I think that in some domains (for example, software development) one person working 40 hours is significantly more productive than two people working 20 hours each.
I’ll go one further, often in software development, one person working 40 hours is significantly more productive than two people working 40 hours each.
Someone working 4 days is always going to earn less than someone working 5
I guarantee that an executive working 4 days a week will make more than the fast food worker doing 6 days a week. I get your sentiment but I don’t think that even pans out for software developers. Most software developers are salaried, and whether they work 3 or 6 days in a week they get the same (just more likely to get fired if they work 3 while everyone else works 5, but their work can trump that deficit). In fact a role that is micromanaging hours of a software developer is in my experience more likely to be stingy with pay and pay less despite trying to demand perpetual unpaid overtime.
Valmond@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Good luck making a bigger project like that (even a small project).
RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Meanwhile, in Germany: There are a lot of unemployed people, and there are a lot of people who want a four-day week, so what we desperately need is working longer hours.
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
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Oh. I missed the sarcasm. But yes, that is how conclusions work in my country, as well.
RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Yeah, they just like squeezing out some more. Why should the efficiency gains of the last decades help the people, after all? No, what we really need is richer billionaires.