Let’s be fair, 9 billion of people living on Earth is already just too much and we are projected to peak at 11 billion apparently.
Custodians
Submitted 3 weeks ago by fossilesque@mander.xyz to science_memes@mander.xyz
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PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
qevlarr@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Oh no, not this again… There’s enough food for everyone and we throw most of it away. Farming can be improved, but then we need to change our diets and how we distribute food. Water is equally abundant, but we can’t have huge cities in the desert. That sort of stuff.
Calling people existing a problem is itself problematic. It’s a step on the way to socially pressure or outright forbid people from having children, which makes existing power dynamics super creepy. Like, you think the rich and powerful will ever be denied this right? The road to eugenics, fascism, genocide is paved with green liberals concerned about overpopulation.
Catpurple@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
There’s always too many people when you ask a person like this about the population, but never enough people when you ask the same person the same question but include include skin color in the question. F everyone who whines about population.
gwilikers@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
There must be a limit on how many people earth can house.
Saying “not limit” would be an irrational dogma.
Once the existing of a limit is accepted we can and should discuss what number it is.
PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
It is definitely true that by lowering the amount of food waste (like food retail companies letting their employees bring almost expired food home to consume etc etc). I just unfortunately assumed that we won’t really improve in this food waste area.
Eugenics and genocide in the name of overpopulation could theoretically go into power (or comeback with eugenics), although I think the chance of that happening will be low, atleast in countries like Europe and north american countries, but your point is understandable.
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Please tell me why everyone is so concerned about declining birth rates*. Please.
*Without mentioning industryNatanox@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
They’re concerned about “their” people, because it’s declining only in rich countries and those tend to see themselves as “better” and don"t like “unregulated immigration” (while the regulated one costs shit tons of money). Also those who bring thst up are usually right-wingers.
Or to say it bluntly: Xenophobia and racism.
blackbrook@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Because we’re anxious about our investments in soylent green.
auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Because it means there will be a larger burden on (smaller) younger generations to look after the aging ones.
Instead of 6 kids and 30 grandkids, you maybe have 2 kids and 1 grandkid, if you’re lucky.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Things were going well until Xi Jinping became a dictator and China reversed the One Child Policy.
We also managed to slightly curb the population growth in the Middle East before the Taliban resurgence. The middle east is the fastest growing population, and a 1995 UN Meeting in Cairo Egypt came to the conclusion that education and rights for women were the ideal solutions to the problem.
Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Going organic and plant-based would be such a massive improvement.
People have been saying this for at least 40 years.
The_v@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah, only half of that statement is correct. Organic is overall more damaging to the environment for most species. The lower yields = more acres needed for cultivation.
seeaya@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Also, many GMOs were engineered to be more resistant to pests and thus need fewer pesticides
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
‘more damaging’ is unfortunately not a simple linear scale. One requires more space, the other releases more poisons into the environment. Both suck. But if production becomes plant based at the same time as organic, there’ll still be way less space used overall. Cursory searx tells me 3/4 of agricultural land is used for animal agriculture (including growing feed). Horribly inefficient.
bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 weeks ago
Going organic and half of the world starves.
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Fuck (space inefficient) monoculture All my homies do permaculture
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Ephera@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Yeah, it’s great. Farmers need to use pesticides and monocultures to stay competitive, since other farmers are using them. Also, pesticides and monocultures kill the ecosystems that provide things like natural pest control, pollination and humus. So, you probably don’t get an increased yield from pesticides and monocultures when they’re employed in wide areas, while you do still get the destruction of ecosystems.