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Apple cofounder Steve Wozniak says Tesla ‘is the worst in the world’ at improving its technology for drivers

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨remington@beehaw.org⁩ to ⁨technology@beehaw.org⁩

https://fortune.com/2025/03/07/steve-wozniak-says-tesla-is-worst-at-improving-driver-tech/

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  • thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And he’s right. The Autopilot has not improved for the last 5 or so years. It rather has gotten worse. Phantom brakes are a nightmare and truly dangerous, the wind shield wiper is highly erratic and the lane departure warning is often just plain wrong and mostly annoying.

    I really regret buying this car. And that is not even counting the disastrous image issues caused by the wannabe-Göbbels that owns the company.

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    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sell it.

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      • thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There is no one to sell it to.

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      • remington@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Or donate it to NPR

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    • easily3667@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You didn’t read the article but at least you had better input than the guy who just said “stupid take fsd is great”.

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      • thoralf@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just because I criticized a different software aspect than Woz makes you believe that I didn’t read the article?

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  • Skunk@jlai.lu ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Musk calling Wozniak a loser on shitter in 3, 2, 1…

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  • itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Telsa stopped providing the data needed to be included in the J.D. Power reliability rankings after they went from near the top to 2nd to last.

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  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The Woz has spoken. Ditch Tesla cars and buy something that isn’t owned by a nazi gremlin.

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In Woz we trust (even if we don’t buy from Apple)

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      • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Woz is one of the first people who would tell you not to buy apple. He loves to tinker

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      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        He’s a real nerd’s nerd.

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    • pixelpop3@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Would literally buy an electric VW Beetle so far at this point for the lulz

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  • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cars should not have software updates

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    • ahal@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Speak for yourself. I think that’s one of the things Tesla got right. Cars shouldn’t have features locked behind software updates though.

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      • easily3667@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Lol like Tesla was the first car to update software.

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    • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They should but I’ll go one further. Liability should be 100% with the auto manufacturers and car insurance should disappear or be drastically reduced assuming maintenance warranties are met. If I’m buying a FSD car I don’t want any liabilities when it comes to safety.

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      • amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        100%, the liability issue is the main reason I’m against self driving vehicles.

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    • balder1993@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is why technically software is a liability. The less code you need, the better, since every line of code is a potential vulnerability and something to maintain, update, etc.

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      • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ideally I don’t want my car to be a computer at all, maybe isolated chips to run the abs and such very simple strictly necessary tasks but that’s it. Maybe a company will happen to make a good car at one point in time, but there aren’t any companies you can trust not to fuck it up if they have perpetual access to tinker with it.

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  • rusticus@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Love Woz but this is a stupid take. FSD is the best of the best and has improved dramatically the last few months.

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    • easily3667@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s a summary at the top of the article if you don’t feel like reading the whole thing, but please don’t write “stupid take” in response to an editor’s headline and expect people to appreciate your input.

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    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      "FSD is the best of the best and has improved dramatically the last few months.

      Every musk fanboi has repeatedly claimed this “last few months” line for the past several years. If it was actually true the car would be sentient by now.

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  • JokeDeity@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not into Apple, but I’m into Woz, and if he said it, it’s true.

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Where to find the time of day changes depending on what [driving] mode you’re in,” he said. “The buttons that go through your six favorite channels don’t work if it’s satellite radio channels. It takes so many tries to hit one button in your jiggly car, and it just doesn’t work.”

    Well, Woz. You’re famous for doing a universal control panel for another prominent piece of consumer electronics and figuring out how to interface it to lots of different brands.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_remote

    In 1987, the first programmable universal remote control was released. It was called the “CORE” and was created by CL 9, a startup founded by Steve Wozniak, the inventor of the Apple I and Apple II computers.[2]

    All you had to do then was to reverse-engineer the infrared protocols used to communicate with the televisions.

    I bet that it’s probably possible to figure out a way to have a third-party control panel interface with various auto UIs. Like, build a universal interface, and then just design mounting hardware on a per-car basis? Use Android Auto or CarPlay, OBD-II, and such?

    Can Android Auto do climate control?

    kagis

    Sounds like it doesn’t, but may start being able to do so:

    androidauthority.com/android-auto-climate-control…

    Android Auto could be about to turn up the heat (and AC) on car comfort

    Climate control may finally be coming to Google’s in-car interface.

    So instead of having third-party car computers being the province of a few hobbyist hardware hackers, there’s an out-of-box solution for everyone? Make the “Wozpanel” or whatever that I just mount in my car? Stick physical buttons on it?

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    • Midnitte@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s also Android Automotive that can do that (separate from Android Auto).

      The reason Tesla doesn’t use that, is because they want to control what you experience. There’s a reason you can’t use your own music provider.

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  • darkmogool@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    …so is apple

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