The question no one dares ask: what if Britain has to defend itself from the US? | George Monbiot

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• MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The best way to defend a country from the US is to not engage them in traditional warfare but use guerilla tactics until they give in and go home. They’ve lost multiple wars this way.

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  • Lemming421@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But also to not have multiple US military bases already on British soil.

    I’m not a military person, but I feel that could be seen as tactically unwise…

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    • wiccan2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is what I was saying to someone a couple of weeks ago when Musk was talking about liberating the UK.

      They don’t need to invade us, they’re already here.

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    • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Dont they technically own those bases? They ones i remember were very explicitly named RAF (Royal Air Force), don’t know about other US branches presence

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    • Darkmoon_UK@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      To say nothing of the wider hypothetical conflict, wouldn’t the US bases themselves be trivial to overrun? I doubt they’re set up to defend themselves from the host country.

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    • Khrux@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The chances of a future where the UK and USA go to war where those military bases aren’t long since gone is nearly impossible.

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  • MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Unfortunately even then the M.O. is to flatten half the country, dismantle any existing government, then half-heartedly declare victory before leaving any survivors to clean up the mess.

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    • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sounds like US domestic policy

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If they invade the UK we’re just going to throw all their bud light in the sea. See how they like it.

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    • MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The sea will throw it back

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  • match@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    how should i use this info if I’m already in the us

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  • Khrux@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is what the US have encouraged Taiwan to do. Taiwan wanted to purchase a few incredibly expensive fighters and ship from the USA, but basically all war simulations just had China target these and secure a fast win. The USA instead encourage Taiwan to take the “porcupine” technique, spreading many small weapons, particularly handheld anti-aircraft type weaponry across the country. The plan is to make invasion too inconvenient. The flip side is that without a reliable way to show a display of strength, anywhere the larger aggressor does pick on (USA to UK China to Taiwan) can focus on one part of the country and reliably cause massive damage there.

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah best get building your rainforest back up

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• snaprails@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  No one dares to ask? Or just no one needs to ask since the answer is obviously “we’re fucked”.

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• sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  guess I’ll just be invaded

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• FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This may need to start very soon. On 24 February, the UN general assembly voted on a Ukrainian resolution, co-sponsored by the UK and other European nations, condemning Russia’s invasion. Unsurprisingly, Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Hungary and several small and easily cowed states voted against it. But so did the US andIsrael. This, more clearly than any other shift, exposes the new alignment. An axis of autocracy, facilitating an imperial war of aggression, confronts nations committed (albeit to varying degrees) to democracy and international law.

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• Indoril@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Our militaries are inextricably linked at this point. But it would be the immediate capture and seizure of all American personnel in the country, then a rapid return of British troops to national soil. The EU and Commonwealth would join us, and we would smash the Americans. Their morale would be zero, half of them would desert/rebel/defect and they’d be fighting a world war on multiple fronts. We would just have to hope Trump doesn’t press the red button. In that situation that would trigger a second strike of UK & French nukes straight back at them, and the USA and Europe would be glass. Russia and China achieve world domination.

  Regarding Trident, that would be an incredibly sticky situation. Immediately our deterrent would be diminished, long term (2-3 years) it would be gone. There would have to be lightning fast deal made with the French, full refit of the subs and warheads for their missiles.

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