Bill proposed to outlaw downloading Chinese AI models.

Submitted ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨schizoidman@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨technology@beehaw.org⁩

https://www.hawley.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Hawley-Decoupling-Americas-Artificial-Intelligence-Capabilities-from-China-Act.pdf

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/25011462

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE

This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Decoupling America’s Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act of 2025’’.

SEC. 3. PROHIBITIONS ON IMPORT AND EXPORT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OR GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY

(a) PROHIBITION ON IMPORTATION.—On and after the date that is 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the importation into the United States of artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence technology or intellectual property developed or produced in the People’s Republic of China is prohibited.

Currently, China has the best open source models in text, video and music generation.

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Gamers_mate@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I could understand banning closed source models but open sourced models that work better than anything propriety isn’t that just the free market that corporations like to pretend to be part of?

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- jarfil@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Define “open sourced model”.
  
  The neural network is still a black box, with no source (training data) available to build it, not to mention few people have the alleged $5M needed to run the training even if the data was available.
  
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  - thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Define “open sourced model”.
    
    The term itself is actually shockingly simple. Source is the original material that was used to build this model, training data and all files that are needed to compile and create the model. It’s Open Source, if these files are available (preferably with an Open Source compatible license). It’s not. We only get binary data, the end result and some intermediate files to fine tune it.
    
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- jonne@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  They were only for the free market if they could force it on others.
  
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- thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Well its still not Open Source.
  
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  - Gamers_mate@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Is part of the code not available?
    
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- teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  It’s also the free market for those corporations to buy a government and use it to outlaw competition.
  
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spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I fear I’ve become something of an accelerationist in the past few days…

yeah, go ahead and pass this, you tech-illiterate xenophobic fucks.

we need to divide and conquer the fascist coalition. make them hate each other. make them consumed by infighting. give them more “oh I didn’t realize there would be negative consequences that affected me personally” moments.

there’s a whole lot of Silicon Valley techbro types who are on board with Musk and Trump because they think it’s all lower taxes, less regulations for their startups, and less “wokeness”. go ahead, pass a law that makes it a federal crime for them to click a GitHub download link. make it so that every Hacker News thread about AI is filled with American engineers bemoaning that they’re legally prohibited from keeping up with the state-of-the-art. make their startups uncompetitive because they’re required by law to pay inflated prices to subsidize OpenAI and other “American-made” plagiarism machines.

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yozul@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
So, I’m just kind of curious how this would even work. Lots of people in the US already have Deepseek. If they already have it that’s not importing it, is it? What if someone makes a copy of Deepseek from a server that’s in the US? Is that importing it? Are we just trying to block future AIs? How is it even supposed to be beneficial to the US for the people working on AI here to have no access to Chinese models, when China can still freely use ours? Won’t that just give them an advantage in developing AI?

Honestly, the more I think about this, the dumber it gets, and it was already pretty stupid on a surface level. It’ll probably pass though. I don’t think anybody in Washington DC is even interested in thinking about the consequences of anything they’re doing. It’s all pure pageantry.

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- killabeezio@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Just rename the model like they renamed gulf of Mexico.
  
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  - t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    ShallowReveal
    
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CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
BRB about to make a derivative of this shirt Image

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- sevenOfKnives@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Gonna need a little higher density barcode lol
  
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melp@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Oh ffs. Fuck right off congress.

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- ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Well I wasn’t planning on downloading Deepseek, but now I feel like I gotta…
  
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andrewrgross@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Can you prevent someone from setting up local instances of Deepseek? It’s open source. How would this define Chinese models?

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- reallyzen@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Nobody cares about you and your cheap AI-generated tentacle porn. The point here is at entreprise-level. Businesses will be locked down with expensive vendors, it’s all that matters.
  
  Infuriating thing above all that cretin protectionism is that pro use of AI stuff will use a planet-destroying 10 times as much energy than needed.
  
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  - DdCno1@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    This model would not exist without the work done by OpenAI though, given that the Chinese company secretly used ChatGPT to train it.
    
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- avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  They can criminalize downloading it for example.
  
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tal@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

or intellectual property developed or produced in the People’s Republic of China is prohibited.

This guy might get a bill through that bans Chinese AI stuff, though I think that enforcement is gonna be a pain, but as per the text, this is banning all Chinese intellectual property, AI or not. That’s a nonstarter.

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- Excel@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  You think that the bill being completely moronic is a reason congress wouldn’t pass it? Oh sweet summer child…
  
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Arghblarg@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Streisand Effect engage!

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- DdCno1@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Not really, given the media frenzy surrounding this model.
  
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  - insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I lost interest enough to delete the models I had before and this headline made me look into deepseek.
    
    Though this seems to have traded compute for data, so I don’t have the VRAM for it… even running through RAM, I don’t feel like downloading a lesser version with my slow-ish internet.
    
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modulus@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Get your DeepSeek3 and r1 weights before it’s illegal!

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- thingsiplay@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  They would be illegal in the US only, not the rest of the world. Meaning you can get it somewhere else.
  
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- veroxii@aussie.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Print it on a t shirt!
  
  09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
  
  Just use a small font. /s
  
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sculd@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
How do they plan to enforce this…

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xia@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
You wouldn’t download… a BRAIN!!!

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