as if you needed more reasons to switch to Signal
I can’t believe it! 😱
/s
Telegram Hands U.S. Authorities Data on Thousands of Users [404 Media]
Submitted 1 week ago by theangriestbird@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org
https://www.404media.co/telegram-hands-u-s-authorities-data-on-thousands-of-users/
Comments
quaff@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
einkorn@feddit.org 1 week ago
I am shocked I tell you! Shocked!
SteevyT@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Well, not that shocked.
zephorah@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Proton up people. And get your people on Signal or WIRE.
We’re probably the most boring people day to day and we’ve dove it for a while on general principle. Now, it feels important to have already made that shift.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
also XMPP and Matrix/Element.
Also your choices should be impacted by your threat model. Not everyone needs to lock up like they’re James Bond.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 1 week ago
I have two friends on Signal!
No one else believes me. Gonna be a weird future
DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 week ago
I managed to get my entire family onto this service and even some friends. That said, they are almost all also using at least WhatsApp, because they are only using Signal to stay in touch with me (since I’m not on WhatsApp).
Mikina@programming.dev 1 week ago
I’m a fan of self-hosted Matrix server. You can get a dozen of bridges for those stubborn people that refuse to leave messenger/whatsapp/telegram (at a loss of encryption, and they still get your convos, but at least you don’t have their spyware on your mobile and you can have everything in one app), while also being decentralized.
Self-hosting a server is actually really, really easy. It took me like half an hour, because there is an amazing Matrix Ansible Deploy script, that has a pretty easy to follow documentation, and is also one of those super-rare projects that just works. Even if I forgot to update my server for several months, I could literally “just update”, and the script is clever enough to figure out what changed, tell me what I need to update in the config files (which are still only like four rows of stuff I needed to setup), and it is a really smooth experience.
jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 week ago
unable to decrypt message
gregs_gumption@lemm.ee 1 week ago
HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Isn’t simplex also funded by venture capitalists like Jack Dorsey? I don’t think I’d trust then either.
tisktisk@piefed.social 1 week ago
Dorsey, Zuck, Bill Gates. All the venture capital interests already got they teeth in Simplex Chat.
Umbrias@beehaw.org 1 week ago
i would love an analysis of their federation because it seems built to make that impossible.
toothpicks@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Herpes simplex?
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 1 week ago
I read that all the popular chat services provide similar information to law enforcer agencies. I don’t think telegram is special in this regard.
theangriestbird@beehaw.org 1 week ago
I’m generally given to trust Malwarebytes regarding cybersecurity, but they don’t mention at all that E2E encryption is not the default messaging style on Telegram. That, plus the article being from 2021, makes me distrustful of that source.
Signal is still the only service I am aware of that does not store logs of user messages on servers. Messages only exist on the devices of individual users.
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
If it’s stored on their servers then it isn’t private
Ulrich@feddit.org 5 days ago
Depends if you consider Signal “popular”, because based on your own link, the only information they provide is:
No message content., Date and time a user registered. Last date of a user’s connectivity to the service.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
why people don’t use matrix is beyond me
theangriestbird@beehaw.org 1 week ago
open stuff scares people. plus with messengers, we’re kind of bound to what our friends use. I’ve been slowly converting friends to Signal, and but people are very reluctant to change when the thing they have already works. Can’t imagine how much friction I would hit with something like matrix.
calmluck9349@infosec.pub 6 days ago
How slow friends are blows my mind. Like a cool new app they is secure and private?! Who wouldn’t jump on that?! I tell everyone" I don’t do SMS. Signal is the only way to get a hold of me. If you have a more secure app I’ll look into it. "
Ulrich@feddit.org 5 days ago
There’s privacy and then there’s user experience. UX on Matrix is awful. Not to mention Matrix collects all the metadata, and the vast majority of it sits on a single server (matrix.org), which is owned by a private company and subject to subpoenas.
drwho@beehaw.org 1 week ago
Here we go again. Once more, folks don’t fucking listen when they’re warned. And the ones who should have listened just got branched again.
sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 week ago
Well this was always coming!
mox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 week ago
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 week ago
You’re telling me the messaging serving with a roll-your-own encryption that hasn’t been audited and doesn’t enable end-to-end-encryption by default, instead requiring you to initiate 1-to-1 “secret chats” isn’t secure or trustworthy?? Holy balls!