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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨fossilesque@mander.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is why workers forced movies and shows to put everyone in the closing credits.

    Y’all need to unionize.

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    • BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      From what I can tell, et al. is not about socio-political power*. It’s just a necessity for ease and efficiency. In-text citations need to be short to limit wasted space. Otherwise, we’d have lots of text dedicated to unnecessary names. An in-text citation that reads (Perez et al., 2023) is much more efficient than (Perez, Washington, Smith, Iwukuni, Johnson, Patel, Boofy, Yamirez, Tate, Hendrix, Apple, Man, & Gargamel, 2023).

      Using 7th ed. APA, the citation entries in the bibliography/references include upto the first 20 authors, so contributors are rarely omitted.

      • Perhaps being the first author is in many situations, but APA format can’t really address that.
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      • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s not like these are written on literal paper. It’s the 21st century, There’s no reason to save space in digital documents when you can just format them differently.

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      • averyminya@beehaw.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The idea being that when you go to view the citation, you see the details that were previously et al.

        Whereas on movie credits, that’s your one chance to be seen credited on the work, outside of IMDB maybe.

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      • PositiveControl@feddit.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And at the same time, you can still get credit for the paper in your resumee etc.

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  • Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For what it is worth. i found out last week I was excluded as a credited inventor on a patent that I worked for 2.5 years on. Industry does this stuff too…

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    • Fermion@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I know it may not be worth pursuing, but that specifically can invalidate a patent.

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      • Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Correct. I have already reached out to my former company and I have a stack of paperwork coming to “correct the oversight” it helps that the company didn’t know that the patent application had been filed by the client.

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    • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Umm, that sounds very illegal?

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      • Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It sounds that way because it is.

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  • solsangraal@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    scholars: “become a scholar! it’ll give you more opportunities in the future!”

    also scholars: “there are too many scholars!”

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    • stelelor@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No scholar would ever tell anyone else to become a scholar. More like “Run! Run while you can! Get away from this cursed existence!”

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      • solsangraal@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        you’re right. fixed

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  • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Has any researcher ever tried legally changing their name to “et al” ? Like in day to day life you could just be Al but you would also be the most published scientist in history.

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    • Belgdore@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It would also mean being involved in the most lawsuits, unfortunately.

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  • propter_hog@hexbear.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Glass half full approach: “I am the single most cited author in existence”

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  • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Some disciplines use alphabetical order. I’d like to see a study that looks into if in this fields, does it impact the prosperity of tenure and grant funding?

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  • PositiveControl@feddit.it ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    On the opposite side, being the only person working in the lab (especially when dealing with animali models) can be absolutely miserable - ask me how I know…

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    • Nfamwap@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How do you know?

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      • ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This guy follows documentation.

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  • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “The movie star…and the rest!”

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  • Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    One tiny difference between the pain Israeli commercial pilots feel once they graduate

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    • HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What the fuck are you talking about?

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      • Akasazh@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        El Al

        en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al

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  • icerunner_origin@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Simple fix, change legal name to Al.

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