It’s like Overwatch, Dota 2, and Team Fortress 2 all baked into a pie.
A new shooter from valve? Hell yeah!!
a hero shooter
Oh. Never mind then.
We played Valve’s secret new shooter: Deadlock
Submitted 3 months ago by ayla@beehaw.org to gaming@beehaw.org
https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219016/valve-deadlock-hands-on-secret-new-game
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Eggyhead@lemmings.world 3 months ago
Crotaro@beehaw.org 3 months ago
I absolutely get where you’re coming from, but to be fair Team Fortress is basically a hero shooter as well, except that there can be multiples of the same “hero” on the battlefield at the same time. Or - and I’m genuinely asking because I haven’t played “hero shooters” in that long - am I missing a core distinction of hero shooters?
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 3 months ago
I was thinking something more in line with a narrative story-based shooter like half life. TF2 and other competitive shooter arena games were never really my thing.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
TF2 is a class based team deathmatch FPS. One class, one character.
In hero shooters you have multiple characters with different abilities that make them distinct from each other, yet all can conform to a certain class type and role.
irasponsible@beehaw.org 3 months ago
It’s barely a hero shooter - it’s just a MOBA
AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Anyone else feel disappointed it’s just another MOBA? Like, this is territory Smite has been treading for years.
Gerudo@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Mobas are not my thing. Thought this might be cool, but it’s literally just an over the shoulder moba. Honestly, it didn’t feel fresh at all.
Jimbo@yiffit.net 3 months ago
this is territory Smite has been treading for years.
And Paragon/Predecessor
captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 months ago
Specially since apparently it has some of the most toxic mechanics I hate from MOBAS (last hit, creep denial) and another that I just hate (itemization ) after playing MOBAS that did away with it, and actually felt much more fun to play (Dawngate and Heroes of the Storm).
jaxiiruff@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
The gameplay is braindead just like most mobas and is not anything like TF2. Its smite with guns.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 months ago
On the one hand, not a big fan of moba or purely PVP games.
On the other, I deeply dislike overwatch specifically and would like to see it dead. Maybe this would make a dent.
Manapany@jlai.lu 3 months ago
I never understood this attitude of wanting soooo bad a game to be dead. If you don’t like it don’t play it. Let other ppl have their fun.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 months ago
Sometimes you feel like the shittier game took players from the game you’d rather be playing.
Sometimes you feel like the shittier game is kind of a knockoff, and it feels bad when that succeeds.
Sometimes a game is made by a horrible company with a history of abuse from its high ranking staff.
Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
Maybe Overwatch beat them up and stole their lunch money.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 months ago
Their definition of “secret” seems very different from mine.
averyminya@beehaw.org 3 months ago
I got in today, got to play a few matches. It was pretty fun, I’m not huge on MOBA’s but I’m not entirely against them. I liked games like Sanctum and Sanctum 2 (this isn’t really like those, since those are tower defenses) but it’s got the same vibe going. Turning a familiar genre and adapting it into a different perspective. The characters I’ve played have been interesting, I haven’t loved them all but it seems like a decently well rounded cast. There’s some really good gameplay moments in there though with some of the character abilities. Playing slow and methodically has been working out well for me.
Interested to see what will change. It’s a bit chaotic right now, in some good ways and in some difficult to see ways. I have noticed a couple of the same characters in every game, can’t tell if it’s out of interest or if people knowing they are very strong. I like it though so far, it’s pretty easy to get the opponent tilted if in a single lane. Steal their soul points, push them with damage just enough to annoy them, punish when they start making mistakes
etchinghillside@reddthat.com 3 months ago
How not battle royal.
smeg@feddit.uk 3 months ago
Valve do what they want, not what’s flavour-of-the-month
HER0@beehaw.org 3 months ago
Well, sometimes they do flavour-of-the-month, but only when they want to, not because they exclusively chase trends.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Someone’s about to lose their preferential access
gloombert@beehaw.org 3 months ago
i was kind of hoping it would be less generic but im sure some people will still like it once its out :D
CTDummy@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I’m not a lawyer but I sure hope the writer of this checked with a lawyer before posting because that does not sound right.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 months ago
Usually the first line in these agreements is “by using this software you agree…”
Though I also am not sure how that itself would hold up in court.
Nilz@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
Didn’t we reach a point where EULAs are non-enforcable? Or is that just in the EU? But regardless, Valve can just ban you and good luck doing anything about it.
CTDummy@lemm.ee 3 months ago
I’ll have to see if I’ve got a copy of an NDA I signed for play testing but that’s what I would have thought. It would be provisional on your participation not on an agreement like old school EULAs. As someone else pointed out it seems to be in closed beta or some form of early access, so maybe Valve won’t care and it won’t come back on them.
GammaGames@beehaw.org 3 months ago
Lawyers hate this one simple trick
powerofm@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Looks like anyone who has access can invite their steam friends, so I guess it’s like closed beta? Seems weird to have something soft-launch with zero announcements. The design also looks very rudimentary. Im
CTDummy@lemm.ee 3 months ago