More than 100 arrested in London as violence flares after Southport stabbings

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• LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  JSO got what, 6 years? Let’s see what the rightoid loons get.

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    5 years for one of them IIRC, although their case was more complicated than Reddit/Lemmy comments often state. Reddit/Lemmy often says they got 5 years for peacefully protesting, however:

    • the protestors affected emergency services

    • the protesters were repeat offenders

    • the protesters said they are glad they broke the law

    • the protester who got the longest sentence was in contempt of court and got arrested again during the court case

    • the protestor who got the longest sentence was continually rude to the judge and constantly tried to create drama in the courtroom, generally a terrible idea.

    • the protester who got the longest sentence said he would commit more crimes, he would never stop, and he couldn’t wait to get out there and commit more crimes.

    5 years is a long time, but at the same time, particularly that last one, honestly wtf did he expect to happen? The judge to say “oh cool mate, go on now, leave my courtroom and commit more crimes. Boys will be boys! What a little scallywag!”? He left the judge with little choice but to come down on him hard.

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    • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      the protestors affected emergency services

      Cars affect them way more, so if anything JSO would prolly in the long term make things better for them.

      the protesters were repeat offenders

      Based.

      the protesters were repeat offenders

      Based.

      the protesters said they are glad they broke the law

      Based.

      the protester who got the longest sentence was in contempt of court and got arrested again during the court case

      Based.

      the protestor who got the longest sentence was continually rude to the judge and constantly tried to create drama in the courtroom, generally a terrible idea.

      Based. Being a judge prosecuting fucking climate protestors is the real crime.

      the protester who got the longest sentence said he would commit more crimes, he would never stop, and he couldn’t wait to get out there and commit more crimes.

      Unreal, I don’t even know the guy but have enormous respect for him. Thanks for sharing this.

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    • HorseRabbit@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Literally Jorjor Well

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    • YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well if he was rude he should clearly get excommunicated if not defenestrated.

      /s

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If being rude to the judge means you get more prison time then you’re already so far down the rabbit hole you need to rebel. That’s straight out of the authoritarian handbook.

      And a repeat offender of hanging from road signs? Really? Oh no. The world is ending.

      You guys are grasping at straws here. They weren’t even the ones to stop traffic. They were above it all holding signs. You’re blaming them for the actions of the state that’s massively over reacted on their punishment. In other words, victim blaming.

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  • Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No it’s alright you see because Our Tommeh said was for Our Countreh.

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• Streamwave@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There’s a lot of simmering anger, resentment and frustration in many communities in this country. It’s been building for years. The stabbing of those poor girls at their dance class seems to have been the straw that broke the camel’s back.

  This isn’t just the EDL (an organisation which disbanded more than a decade ago), this is thousands of English people who are furious. We can try and understand the sources of that fury, and then begin the work to resolve it, or we’ll keep getting these sorts of horrid outbreaks of ugly violence.

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  • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We don’t know the details yet. But, if this stabber was a white kid, we’d all be talking about mental health. Non-white kids of immigrants can also have mental health issue. But the worse of country jump straight to racism, blaming the culture of the immigrant. If this lad grew up here, he has been surrounded by our culture. If there is mental health issues, it’s our fault it wasn’t caught in time. If he went mental for cultural reasons, we can’t wash our hands of that either. If we want assimilation, we can’t other people.

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    • symthetics@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well said.

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  • FarceOfWill@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    People imagining something awful for years will be triggered when it finally (allegedly) happens but their fears are ultimately based on fearmongering.

    Plenty of people are scared of the two assasinations of MPs by right wing lunatics.
    Or that mosque pipe bombing Or lots of other thanks that happen over and over because of these problematic communities you mention. Do we really need to understand the hate and intolerance to punish it? I don’t think so

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    • Streamwave@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Plenty of people are scared of the two assasinations of MPs by right wing lunatics.

      One of them was a far-right lunatic, but the man who assassinated David Amess was a London-born radicalised Muslim affiliated with ISIL

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  • Wanderer@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    For a lot of people they voted for Brexit for lower immigration even when people said it would be bad for the economy. Instead they got more immigration from the third world.

    Consistently for decades the British have wanted less immigration and instead got more.

    Surprised it has taken this long really.

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• Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Woah. You okay there UK? Hang in there man.

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  • ThePyroPython@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Eh, we could be doing better, but at least now we’ve got a sensible sounding government.

    Don’t worry about this, race riots happen every 20 years or so. The previous one was much bigger.

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• Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think people are really stupid to have a response like this to social media rumours and lies.

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, it’s not just that. This species is a dead end.

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