Submitted 4 months ago by jeffw@lemmy.world to workreform@lemmy.world
I dunno. I watched him speak live and it didn’t seem like he was talking to or trying to convince Trump. He did seem to be talking to the Republican base to pay attention and be aware of whether the GOP does anything for working class people.
I don’t think he got through to many, if any, but honestly there’s literally no one in the GOP Convention-going Base talking about unions or working class issues. Worth a shot.
Maybe I’ll have to give it a listen. Disgusted me to see Sean O’Brien up there.
So long as unions have to support democrats, the democrats don’t have to give anything in return, making it useless to support them. So at least pretending that there is an alternative might push the democrats to be more labor friendly.
And yet “Biden was the most pro-union President in history” without those silly games
Have any other unions came out in support other than Teamsters?
Let’s not kid ourselves, Teamsters isn’t getting played here. They’re current leadership is racist as fuck, and have thrown their lot in with the racists.
I listened to an interview with someone who said that she thought this was a calculated move to play both sides to push Dems to deliver more. She said that he’d asked to speak for both parties and only the Repubs accepted him. Given that this was while Biden was still the candidate, I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s true.
[Whoever] believes [any less than malicious thing said, belief espoused, or intention promised] by a Republican is getting played.
“…are getting paid” ftfy
In some, I do honestly think they have just been shown what looks like a potential solution, and they are tired or in financial turmoil to the point of trusting the scorpion. Union leaders are people too, and even the “corrupt” ones still benefit from the entire workerbase being lifted up… basically its not the big draw to evil people like being a cop or politician is.
I don’t know how best to solve this issue in the age of WFH and companies with massive regional presence, but, we need our unions to have faces, to have a hand to shake and a smiling face to speak with.
I’ve yet to see the Republicans do anything but undermine the workerbase’s rights. Especially every policy under the first trump admin. Of course unions need leadership and of course any leadership will always be dogged by corruption. This reeks of a betrayal. The only thing the GOP can trade behind closed doors is to not go to the extremes they have against workers. That brings us back to the status quo which is nonnegotiable.
Makes me sad to have been a teamster.
Fuck that twat.
UAW fired back by calling Trump the “mascot and lapdog” of billionaires.
Yeah I don’t think he was under the impression they cared about unions. If they invite a union to talk why wouldn’t they though? Get them pilled on pro union stuff and watch the fallout.
But then I also didn’t watch the convention so I don’t know how friendly his speech was.
Non-radical unions exist to play the working class.
In the short term sure, probably. In the long run? I’m not so sure.
It feels like, a period of major change may be sprouting. Trump has been a massive shake up to the Republican Party. Eventually he’ll die. Nobody knows how the party handle that, or what it’ll look like after. This last primary cycle they had several debates, offering the public lots of options. That’s how democracy is supposed to work. The democrats on the other hand, refused to hold any debates. Even when lots of people were questioning Biden’s health and ability. They even canceled a number of state primaries. That’s kind of the opposite of a democratic process. And even now, rather than searching for a replacement for Biden, they’re more or less all rallying around Harris. Basically right now, the Republicans are embracing the will of their voters, while the Democrats aren’t even pretending to ask their for voters opinions.
It’s happened before. Republicans were the progressives at their founding, and Democrats the conservatives. They’ve trades places once. There’s no reason to think it couldn’t happen again. It doesn’t happen over night, but it does happen faster than you think. In 20 years the political landscape in the US might be very different.
I’m also keeping an eye on the Forward Party. They’re doing things very differently than any other 3rd party. And Represent.US along with Forward, trying to change the very process of voting. I’m not sure, if or how that’ll effect things. We’ll see.
Eventually he’ll die. Nobody knows how the party’ll handle that, or what it’ll look like after
History gives us some ideas… What happened after Alexander the Great died? Or Genghis Kahn…? The “empire” collapses into infighting and several “warlords” all vying to take the reins shatter into warring camps. It’ll be the end of the Republican party as we know it, and we’ll have 20+ minor groups, all with varying degrees of hatred fueling their “politics.”
Immediately yes. But I’m thinking after that. Once the dust settled, what will the new Republican Party be like. That we can’t know.
vividspecter@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Have these people forgotten Reagan already? He said the same things, then gutted then union movement.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
But that was the old republican party. This iteration is somehow different. /s
Dultas@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It is different… It’s somehow drastically worse.