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The Star Fox-style roguelite whose dev refused to use AI voices to cut costs is adding an entire "anti-capitalist revenge" campaign about a cat-girl destroying AI

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Submitted ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/roguelike/the-star-fox-style-roguelite-whose-dev-refused-to-use-ai-voices-to-cut-costs-is-adding-an-entire-anti-capitalist-revenge-campaign-about-a-cat-girl-destroying-ai/

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  • minibyte@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Whisker Squadron: Survivor

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    • Gamers_Mate@kbin.run ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks just had a look at the game on steam it looks interesting. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2140100/Whisker_Squadron_Survivor/

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      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s honestly giving big Starlight Brigade vibes.

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      • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Man I played way to much star fox. This looks very nostalgic

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  • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So wait, the AI is destroying cat-girls?

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, support your local cat girl VAs or they will disappear forever.

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      • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nyaaa~ OwO

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    • Lukewarm_Tea@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The robots took our jobs

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    • Wogi@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve never been more am enemy of AI than this moment.

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  • Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    released August 2023

    By the time AI voices were a thing, he had already paid for all of his voice lines. He didn’t chose anything.

    This is manipulation to sell more copies and nothing more.

    In any case, AI voices are empowering to the Indie scene. Fully voiced games used to be exclusive to triple A gaming, indie gevs just simply can’t afford it.

    I feel for the voice actors just like I feel for the translators that all had to change domaine ten years ago, but progress is progress and it’s dumb to stifle innovation to save a few jobs.

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    • vithigar@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is manipulation to sell more copies and nothing more.

      …yes? People who make games do things to make their game appeal to people. Framing that as a negative or unusual is kind of weird. Literally everything any game developer does to make the game entertaining or appealing is “a manipulation to sell more copies”.

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      • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think framing this as “refusing” to use AI is kind of weird. They believe in doing things the traditional way, great, I think games that use all hand-drawn nondigital art are also cool for going against the grain like that, but it isn’t like anyone is trying to force them not to.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      AI Voices are just worse or require more work for less pay, and they actually seem less common in the (well made) indie scene than in the Triple A scene.

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  • brsrklf@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hey, they did Race the Sun, that was fun. Interesting.

    I am going to wait till it’s finished though.

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  • Fades@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    refused to use ai voices

    Are gonna hand out awards every time AI isn’t used now?

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At this rate we are in fact going to need to have separate awards shows for non-LLM artistry.

      To answer your question, though, it’s more than just the refusal but the addition of an anti-AI story campaign.

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    • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s an amazingly click-baity headline.

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  • Lumisal@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I like the idea and gameplay, but man am I tired of that color palette

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  • catalyst@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nice. I had this on my list already, this just makes me want it more. I’ll probably wait for a full release though.

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  • aciDC14@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sounds pretty lame honestly.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why did you unlike your own comment?

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      • aciDC14@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Because liking your own comment is lame.

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  • Zerfallen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe a good balance could be a human voice actor for main dialogue, supported by ai trained on their main dialogue to voice sidequest and deep lore dialogue. It could enable fully voiced dialogue-heavy games that would otherwise be too expensive to produce, something like generative RPGs or Morrowind, if all the books could be voiced, and more easily translated while remaining fully voiced. But keeping humans to fill the main campaign contributions, emotional beats and determine character personality. I’m just comparing Morrowind to Oblivion, which was voiced, but the dialogue and conversation trees were heavily reduced in volume as a result.

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe a good balance would be hiring a person to speak lines into a microphone. It could employ a person and create art with an acceptable bare minimum quality standard. If you can’t afford that and would rather push the costs onto government subsidies for power and emissions, maybe just do text dialogue or pull a classic Banjo and Kazooie single dialogue line randomly jumbled up and pitch shifted for every interaction.

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      • richmondez@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I assume you also only buy hand crafted porcelain items, only buy hand picked produce and generally avoid all automation amd modern convenience. Take your clothes to a local hand-wash rather than using a washing machine too do you? I agree that the energy cost should be taken into account before we declare it to be cheaper to use “AI” generated content.

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      • knitwitt@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Using a robotic voice could make the game more accessible to blind, partially sighted, and dyslexic individuals. I’m not sure how an AI voice is inherently different than the voice that comes out of a screen reader, especially if it’s trained on the voice of employees or volunteers.

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  • MHLoppy@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    FYI if you're one of the people who just sees an image, the original includes a link to this:

    https://www.gamesradar.com/games/roguelike/the-star-fox-style-roguelite-whose-dev-refused-to-use-ai-voices-to-cut-costs-is-adding-an-entire-anti-capitalist-revenge-campaign-about-a-cat-girl-destroying-ai/

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    • MBM@kbin.run ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I was wondering what was up with that

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    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Strange, the link is working on my post for me.

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      • MHLoppy@fedia.io ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Probably a quirk of having different software. I'm on Fedia which runs on mbin, as does kbin.run which MBM is on. You're on lemmy, so I guess something was just handled differently for you (and most users!) vs kbin/mbin users.

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  • xnx@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hopefully they do well and can make a version that’s like the GameCube starfox game

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  • Beryl@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s how you land on my wishlist !

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  • furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    awesome! gonna buy this game later!

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  • Nacktmull@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Race the Sun was beautiful, wishlisted!

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