"Nuisance begging" and rough sleeping as soon to be illegal

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• thehatfox@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There’s poo in the rivers and it’s now going to be illegal to be homeless, did I wake up in the past?

  I think it’s time the Conservative Party had a rebrand because they really don’t seem to be conserving much these days. Except for established wealth that is.

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  • ReCursing@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They should rename themselves to "The Radically Regressive Party"

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  • FunkyMonk@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How and terry from the american colonies, I hear in the past the french found a solution to this.

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    • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The French still have a solution to this. If Brits were more on board with damaging property we’d get more done.

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  • HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    what. you want them to raise taxes just to do better water source management. Preposterous!

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• hellothere@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As yes, because that will solve poverty. Bring back debtors prison I say, and we’ll party like it’s 1824!

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  • HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    people can finally be truly hung over again.

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• halfmanhalfalligator@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagrancy_Act_1824

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• obinice@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s not what the quote you posted says, it says it tackles that two things, not that it makes them illegal.

  It does mention some things that are to be made criminal offences right before this bit though, to trick people into posting such headlines, I suspect.

  This whole thing sucks anyway, but I think we could use some clarity on exactly what will be made illegal?

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  • tetris11@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh I think you’re right actually – it looks like from the PDF that they will be issued notices

    publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/…/230010.pdf

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    • IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      🙄 or like, you could admit you were wrong, remove the propaganda, and not resort to your head cannon 🤷‍♂️

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    • JudahBenHur@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      but you’ll leave your not-factual headline up?

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    • 520@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Slippery slope? All it does is provide an enforcement option for orgs who don't want people begging on their property.

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• 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Soon to be frowned upon

  Better than illegal, which it currently is

  Also nuisance begging is defined as:

  begging where it is causing a public nuisance, such as by a cashpoint, in a shop doorway, on public transport, approaching people in their cars at traffic lights, and any broader incidence that cause harassment or distress

  I’d personally say that’s ok to try and get people to move along from - it’s completely anecdotal but at least in Central London it’s often the most aggressive beggars who you also see doing hard drugs come night, having honed their techniques after years due to the even higher difficulty of getting out of homelessness while addicted as well as the increased difficulty of building a support structure or getting temporary accommodation while addicted. That means just enforcing this law would do little other than probably increase pickpocketing, as the government needs to intervene at the root cause rather than symptoms, however it’s still generally not people who are being honest who are doing what is defined here as nuisance begging so even if support structures were in place it should be a crime, while begging and sleeping rough aren’t.

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• Tiltinyall@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t be sleeping so rough if you weren’t spraying mace in my eye

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