I disagree with his final conclusions… If we all try to be nicer to the driver, give them 5 stars, they’re still being abused.
You need better laws to protect them.
Also, don’t become a gig worker, you WILL be abused
Food Delivery Apps: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
Submitted 8 months ago by simplejack@lemmy.world to videos@lemmy.world
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phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
simplejack@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A lot of people that are doing it are between jobs and are looking for something more stable.
sploosh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I did that. I was abused the entire time by an app with no means of communicating with those in control of the app. Sure, I could go and yell at support over being fucked over when a bundled order took me 10 miles farther than the app said it would and there was no tip attached, but they were also being abused since they were contract workers in India who had no means to alter my pay.
The guy in the video was right, these apps are leaches. I’m sorry if you’re currently having your blood sucked by them; I hope the trips are short and the tips are good.
insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 8 months ago
Fun fact: If you're subscribed to the channel, sometimes full episodes pop up in your notifications. Even if you're too slow to see it before it is removed, you may be able to watch on the YT alternatives. This has happened twice for me so far (the episode this segment was from came up last sunday), though I wouldn't be shocked if this was some marketing tactic.
falkerie71@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
They are releasing full episodes onto YouTube. I can see past full episodes of S11 whenever, and they say they plan to upload past seasons as well (announcement video). Maybe it’s a regional restrictions thing that is preventing you to see full episodes.
squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Yep, it’s geoblocked 1000013353
umbraroze@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They stated that they will be releasing full episodes on YouTube in regions where they don’t have an exclusivity contract.
I’m in Finland, can see the full episodes. I don’t think the show is on any terrestial/cable channel here, only HBO Max/Nordic.
Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 8 months ago
Odd, i did see the full episode for this season, none is getting removed, and i lived in south east asia. They did mentioned this is getting released unrestricted to the world though. Maybe it’s a glitch?
insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 8 months ago
I am in USA, so I wouldn't doubt them only restricting it here (or whatever places they serve their paid service, but USA-only is a common thing).
taiyang@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just saw this like an hour ago! Our locals are funny, they actually will cancel your online offer and ask you to call to remake the order at a fraction of the price. (They’re super cheap, and charge you extra if you use a card because that carries a fee they don’t want to pay, haha)
Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 months ago
It’s not the card fees they’re avoiding. It’s the paper trail when it comes to doing their taxes. That’s the nice thing about a family run business. You don’t need bank transfers and wage slips. You just divvy up the cash and keep your gobs shut.
TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
I’ll cook as part of a date night, but for general sustenance it’s a huge hassle for me. I’ve done meal prep but shopping for groceries and keeping track of inventory (to see if I have enough, or to if something is expired) is a huge hassle too. So when I cooked it was basically to do the same keto recipe which only had like two ingredients and made enough to last five or so days. I don’t mind eating the same food every day, and in fact that kind of discipline was useful for losing weight.
Now I exclusively use DoorDash. My credit card gives me free delivery, and while I’m sure door dash increases the prices of the menu item, I actually compared DoorDash vs the restaurant’s in house delivery and the in house delivery after all taxes and fees is less than a dollar cheaper. And that price is only valid at the restaurant for a first time order. On the door dash side I can trigger door dash discount (a flat dollar amount not a percentage) by hitting a certain dollar amount, which I just barely hit it using the items I order, getting maximum (percentage) discount. The items I order are also pretty filling (meat and far not carbs), so it all works out very nicely.
For that extra dollar I get to use the door dash app which is really convenient not just for easily re ordering food (or getting a double dash) but also so I can track eta, and text the driver one-time-use elevator codes so they drop it off right at my door.
Grand total for two burritos? 26.36 and they’re big enough that usually I only eat the second one one the same day if I exercise.
That one guy who said millennial subsidy is right. At least for me, I am getting a huge value of the service.
I order basically every day and I never tip, and you could flame me however you want and I’ll never care.
My old place was difficult to deliver to and I left detailed instructions. Anyone who can’t read it got one star. I don’t understand the whining about ratings. They are there for a reason. The app also separates food rating from driver rating so that concern mentioned by that one lady is a non issue.
If you are too dumb to read delivery instructions on a DoorDash you absolutely deserve to get fired. That is not some evil algorithm, it’s simply a performance review.
metallic_substance@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You’ve managed to pack such a dense amount of bad takes, self-delusion, and misinformation into a single post that I’m actually impressed.
TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
Thanks for the buzzwords. Do you have any actual feedback?
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
You somehow completely missed the point of these companies being abusive to their drivers. You’re also an asshole, but that is a different issue to be discussed, I guess.
TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
Rewatched the whole video just for you. What abuse? Rewarding drivers for being quick? Why is it DoorDash’s fault if you run a red light?
simplejack@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The argument isn’t that the services aren’t convenient. They are absolutely convenient. Moreover, I would argue that convenience hits pretty hard when you consider most households under the babyboomer generation are working more, and can’t afford to have one adult at home doing meal prep while their spouse is paying the rent / mortgage.
The point of the piece is that these services fuck over workers and restaurants.
TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
The workers aren’t fucked because of DoorDash. The workers are fucked because we don’t have universal health care, so being a contractor means you don’t get health care. But that’s not DoorDash’s fault.
Restaurants aren’t fucked either. They can choose to not hit the “accept order” button if they are swamped or don’t think it is profitable.
Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Those driver ratings mean literally nothing, the ONLY metric that counted as a driver was incomplete deliveries.
TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
The video said that if you get bad ratings you get pushed out of the system by getting fewer deliveries etc. How do you know that ratings mean nothing?
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LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This was a really good episode.OMG The guy who said that some DoorDashers are saving up to buy an orphanage 🤣
Blackout@kbin.run 8 months ago
That guy would, with a straight face, steal their tips too. Huuuuge piece of shit.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What? did I miss that part? please explain.