At this point calling the cops is just calling a hit in.
Gunfire From Deputies Killed Teen Who Had Been Reported Kidnapped, Video Shows
Submitted 8 months ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to nyt_gift_articles@sopuli.xyz
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PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Igloojoe@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Literally, what calling in swat is known for.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 months ago
And nothing will be done until someone that is high enough profile gets hit. And even then…
someguy3@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Helicopter video youtu.be/ryoeQpkQlA4
ShadowRam@fedia.io 8 months ago
It's insane that they're just opening fire, while innocent drivers are passing by on the opposite side of that highway.
You can see a bullet bounce off the barrier.
Like WTF is wrong with your country that you allow your police force to just fire off their weapons in public like that?
reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It’s insane that they’re just opening fire, while innocent drivers are passing by on the opposite side of that highway.
SOP. The only thing that matters to cops is that cops aren’t put at risk. Everyone else is entirely disposable. Here’s a hostage situation where the cops killed the suspects, the hostage and a bystander
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I think they believed it was the father running out. She was apparently wearing tactical gear.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Like WTF is wrong with your country that you allow your police force to just fire off their weapons in public like that?
If I were to just guess to the reason(s) US law enforcement is so inept, I’d say training and recruiting.
There’s apparently no universal training requirements for law enforcement officers. Many organizations and/or states have their own requirements, but there’s also situations where that is not the case.
Training: The following is purely anecdotal, so make of it what you want. I’m sure it’s not universally applicable. In my social circles I have a few police officers, and one of them told me of an exchange program, where he had gone to somewhere in the south east of the US. On a ride along with a deputy, they talked about training prior to patrol duty. Said deputy claimed that he/she had had no prior training, but was hired on the basis of a high school diploma, a drivers license, and no history of drugs or criminal behavior. First day on the force the deputy had been equipped with uniform, badge, gun, and a patrol car, and a couple of hours later had been driving about town, uniformed, armed, and extreheeemely nervous. Training hadn’t begun until 6 months later, and in the meantime that deputy had been driving around, scared of getting flagged down by civilians, because he/she had no idea of what to do.
In the recruiting part: Turning down applicants for having an above average IQ abcnews.go.com/amp/US/…/story?id=95836 does seem weird, unless you want mindless drones carrying out orders without reflection.
can@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
This should keep them up at night for the rest of their lives. . But of course if they had any kind of empathy or conscious they wouldn’t be cops in the first place.
bilboswaggings@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Only in America is “might have” enough reason to kill someone
reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 8 months ago
She was the victim, unarmed and following orders. If she can be killed and no one held responsible then when are any of us safe from police violence?
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
Meanwhile in my neighborhood, cops called to kidnapping, find the woman later that evening.
No firearms discharged.
Lizardking27@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You should mention that you are not referring to American cops.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
Why? Extra-judicial killing is wrong no matter what nation’s cops are involved.
awwwyissss@lemm.ee 8 months ago
That’s not newsworthy on Lemmy, it won’t make people hateful and divide them like this story will.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 months ago
Police in my country don’t carry side arms which makes it far more difficult for them to murder people.
Though, that kidnapping incident apparently involve a firearm, so the police responding were armed, and still no one died.
Also, they tend to not get startled by noises, say like acorns falling, or if they do, don’t have a gun to fire in blind panic, and when they are armed, have the discipline to not empty the magazine like Rambo
JayObey711@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think everyone here agrees. There is no devide. Buut if you say so we have to look at hundreds of hours of normal police body cam forage now so we are allowed to criticize the government again.
Davin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Kidnapped person, in the wrong place at the wrong time, found fatally wounded by bullets that had moved at a fast rate of speed that originated from firearms that police happened to be holding at the time the gun powder started a chemical reaction that sent them flying out of the barrels.
Pistcow@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Weird way to say cop murders innocent person.
pop@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Cops are scared as anybody else and wanna go back to their homes without any consequence, watch fox news and beat their wife. They didn’t sign up to be inconvenienced. ohkaay?
-Right wing nuts
Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Yeah, it’s always interesting to see how newspapers will twist the English language to keep using passive voice with cops. It’s not “cops kill innocent” it’s “innocent killed by police’s gunfire.” Notice that in the former, it’s the cops actively killing, while in the latter it’s the victim who is listed first, then the gunfire is what is active. It’s a small bit of psychology to make the police’s actions seem more distant and removed from the situation.
geopolitics_and_hustle@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There’s actually a word for this, and a an entire theory concerning two different styles of journalism that are used to shape public opinion.
I had the incredible luck to take this one class in college. Believe it was called " The Media and War". This class taught by an ex cia spy.
They did not admit this outright, They said their job title was “Citizen Diplomat”, traveling abroad for the “State Department”. I knew exactly what that meant but that school was a fucking joke (fooled me, i got out of there) so I actually don’t think anyone really noticed. Was the only one to press on what that actually looks like, doing that job. Their answers made it pretty clear First day of class they said this, with the tone being ‘read between the lines I can’t talk about it legally’. And went on sharing to the class how they had visited every country south of the US border except Cuba and VZLA. Lol.
They had us study media statistics concerning wording, foundation on the father of PR blah blah Edward Bernays as we know. But this class went deep. She created the course themselves (talked to them office hours to pick their brain, they were so clearly an exhausted ex spook very upfront and chose their words like a calculator but fluently) and I believe she mixed some of their decades of work experiences / training into it.
This Professor lectured that after WW1’s horrific and basically meaningless war caused Americans/ Western Countries’ working class and public in general to heavily negatively associate the noun Propaganda in their “Subconscious Mental Schema”. I can’t remember the exact Phrase. So Bernays, just some dude really, was like just stop using the word Propaganda and say Public Relations in its stead. No difference. They intentionally took initiative and pushed this malicious attempt to keep their control through basically shaping distortio as Public Relations. By the rich. Government caught on after. To keep it short. IM sure many already know this here in this niche area of the internet but I’m just giving context for the main point and lesson I learned from that course.
There are two types of reporting, Literally, in the sense of how you report it.
I understand this almost reflexive urge people have to point out reporters just repeat whatever cops say. Yeah this is true reporters are lazy. Without doxxing myself by oversharing I will say I was working in that field. Its not just laziness. Its intentional, depending on the story, Procedural reporting is deployed on other things as well, most stories really. Before social media this placated people or made politics and economical issues, what are in their interest to know about, and the ones with the wealth and political power have an interest for them not to know about. Because we have democratic systems - the only way public opinion can oust them, jail them through reforms or Leaving reaeders to come to their own conclusions and where we have been at concerning this dynamic and social media added into the euqation, its made things more unstable. Why? I believe there are multiple factors.
One being that investigative journalism is not a career anymore. That is unless you do a ‘True Crime’ podcast or whatever… or a over-funded Lefty or Fascist/Conservative or even worst Centrist, Podcast. Or anyone with a big audiece omn twitter too. (lets be real lmao) Podcasters defend themselves, from sometimes legitimate criticism, by insisting they aren’t real journalists.
Even though they more likely than not criticize the mainstream journalistic media. The irony is funny, they are objectively doing research, interviewing people, following leads, and coming to conclusions. “If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it’s a duck”. whatever. Which leads me to the second type of reporting this former ABC spook lectured on.
Yes all substantive reporting will be biased. Its a spectrum from slightly or heavily and thats good, ** but its what JOURNALISM IS SUPPOSED TO DO. (attempt in good faith) TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC OR AT LEAST CONSTRUCT A MEANINGFUL ARGUMENT OVER EVENTS HAPPENING IN OUR WORLD WE LIVE IN**.
If its a bad one, there will be reporters who will take notice, focus their minds, because if there’s smoke they seek fire and will look at the data and dig deeper than what was presented, and desire to show, through substantive reporting, rebutting or countering the narrative that the original journalist wrote. Or AI chat bot now lol.
Keep this in mind when big legislation passes. At the end of the course we had to pick a subject to study and then collect an ungodly amount of data categorizing the articles takes by reading the whole thing, putting a bit more weight into the headline since thats what typically sticks in most people’s memories these days as we scroll endlessly.
Anyway, my conclusions were really shocking how this major piece of legislation that had concerns surviellance, Edward Snowden type shit you know the section with the never ending sundowns? I sampled almost 200 articles really fucking meticulous oih my god. IIRC It was around 90% if not 95% procedurally reported on. No moral questions asked or “this is unconstitutional” just empty articles… No one dared speak up in defense of privacy. Probably out of fear, hopelessness, or anyone working at these news outlets get paid shit and don;t have talent as their industry’s income has withered horribly over the past two decades.
Whatever. Hope someone reads this and gets something from it. **Substantive reporting is crucial. This old guard instinct to be “objective as possible” and do the both sides shit is actively harming everyone. It neither educates people who are too busy working two jobs to pay the bills or allows people who care to get that perspective, even if its a bad one because it will get them at least engaged or angry about an article shilling for Israel doing genocide by writing an Op-Ed on the front page of the NYT literally like half a year after the Oct 7 attacks with Gaza basically leveled, famine EXISTING not ON THE BRINK/EDGE. ** Etc.
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Those guns just discharged themselves, didn’t you know? The cops had absolutely nothing to do with it. (/s)
I’m so fucking sick of this handling cops with kid gloves bullshit.
reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 8 months ago
“Officer-Adjacent Ballistic Event Culminates In Vitality Cessation Regarding Non-Suspect Person Beneath Age of Majority”
Etterra@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Murdering murderers murder. Again.