The lemmy devs should really focus on proper content deletion tools. It’s not just the images, it’s very strange and inconsistent overall. When I delete a comment, it’s seemingly still visible to many people and collecting up/downvotes even many hours after I deleted it. On the other hand, when a post gets deleted, it’s completely gone, to the point that I can’t even look up the discussion that I had within that post, just my own comments on my profile.
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Submitted 8 months ago by hedge@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org
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PonyOfWar@pawb.social 8 months ago
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
It’s always only had a handful of real devs dedicating time to it. A whole site like this is kind of a huge undertaking, especially when you’re deciding to build it from the ground up in a modern language like Rust, and on top of a relatively new API set, ActivityPub.
Even from early on, I remember lots of discussion from people with database management credentials who were basically pounding their heads going “why are you guys doing it this backwards way?” I don’t follow the development super closely so I don’t know if those issues were resolved or not. I just remember a lot of discussion on it when I was first on Lemmy on a different instance.
Anyway, the short point of what I’m saying is they probably have a plan that makes sense to them, but without more external poking on certain things, they will work on what they think is important first, which may not always line up with what the community thinks is important.
alyaza@beehaw.org 8 months ago
I don’t follow the development super closely so I don’t know if those issues were resolved or not. I just remember a lot of discussion on it when I was first on Lemmy on a different instance.
not that i’m aware of, and fixing a database schema once it’s already in place tends to be a clusterfuck so i’m very skeptical it will get better any time soon
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
And even if you delete a comment the API will still provide the message content as due to federation shenanigans it’s actually just hidden. If you need to remove something, edit and redact the message first.
DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 8 months ago
“Tools for moderating IMAGES now?! When will you beehawists stop with the entitlement?!?!” -lemmy devs, probably
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 8 months ago
[deleted]Penguincoder@beehaw.org 8 months ago
Beehaw isn’t the only instance of Lemmy, nor the only instance in the Fediverse. Sure, the feature being added to Lemmy now, won’t benefit Beehaw. But it would still benefit others. Refusing to work on the features that Beehaw wants out of spite, will definitely hurt other instances too.
Not my circus, not my monkeys
geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Unless I’m reading it incorrectly, the devs changed tact and this was already fixed 2 weeks ago
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 8 months ago
[deleted]Lionir@beehaw.org 8 months ago
They can, if they read the manual. Mods can’t, but instance admins can.
Yes. If you use arcane commands using the docs that are in a pull request that is not yet merged. This is not accessible to many instance admins and it is only “technically supported” which is the worst kind of support from my point of view.
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 8 months ago
I would personally love it if apps would allow images on posts that have been flagged to appear blurred prior to admin review, or just to have a blur applied to all images unless you hover over it/hold your finger on the image.
I know I saw one vulgar troll post that I could’ve lived life without ever seeing.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Yeah, it does read like a hit piece.
relevants@feddit.de 8 months ago
TIL it’s entitled to ask that software you use is either compliant with the law or clearly lets you know that it isn’t, especially when the developers have no idea what the law is
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
It’s not entitled to ask.
Open source software is collaborative, community effort. Everyone contributes what they can and are willing to. Contributing a bug report is one example. Submitting a patch is another. Donating a sum of money to someone to submit a patch is yet another. There are others.
It’s entitled to demand that the developers of an open source software do anything they’re not willing to.
Let alone trying to shame them into doing it on social media if they refuse.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 months ago
Admins can’t delete images
They’re the only ones who actually can delete them!
alexdeathway@programming.dev 8 months ago
this issue is similar to images drag and drop in GitHub readme.
GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Another issue is that image storage is a huge resource burden, to the point where instance admins will simply purge images periodically to keep their database at a reasonable size. It seems like every time I look at Lemmy posts older than a couple months, the images are simply broken.
I’m not convinced image support should be built into Lemmy in the first place. Back on Reddit, people relied on external image hosts like imgur for many years, and those worked a lot better than the image system Reddit eventually built in (which is covered in wall-to-wall anti-features like the inability to simply load a goddamn image directly).
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
We saw what happend with that when imgur and a gif hoster (forgot the name) decided that the free loaders are occupying too much space.
Suddenly the archival troops backed several TBs from imgur.
GammaGames@beehaw.org 8 months ago
gfycat
GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Yeah, that was certainly not ideal. This is a problem with centralization more than it is with integration. I’d rather see a separate decentralized image hosting service. I feel like an image host and a link aggregation/discussion forum require different skills to develop and run, and it would probably be best to have something more specialized.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
I agree with this. Also Lemmy likes to reformat images when you upload them. Its stupid. I have to hotlink from elsewhere anyway so yeah removing it makes more sense.
It would also help reduce the proliferation of things like CSAM thus reducing admin overhead.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 months ago
My instance went down for almost 24 hours yesterday and it’s really small, and I post so much I was actually worried I broke it.
lnxtx@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Images should be stored in a distributed storage like the IPFS.