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Why is the motive important? Is there a good reason?
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Submitted 11 months ago by brt01010101@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
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yesman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
someguy3@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Ever notice it’s terrorism, they hate us, people are saying suspect was maybe possibly trans, but when it’s a white man fucking nothing.
Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Brother what are you talking about. Every white mass shooter in America is an alt right Nazi incel who wants to personally assassinate every lgbtq person on the planet.
Entirely depends on what dogshit news source(s) wants to score political points.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
Lots of mass shootings have been driven by certain extremist ideologies that advocate for violence or invent justifications for violence through fictional narratives. So people are naturally curious if these are connected to those ideologies. If so, perhaps they could be reduced by dismantling these toxic ideologies.
ringwraithfish@startrek.website 11 months ago
If someone walks into your house and shoots your family, would you want to know why? Would it be important to you to understand their motives?
feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 10 months ago
2017
Krudler@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I feel like most horror movies are preying on deep psychological fears of things that don’t or won’t happen, or happen only in the deepest fears of the psyche.
The concept of just leaving your house to get some turnips and getting shot in the face is like a daily thing for every American, so I’m not sure that makes for good psychological horror.
nutsack@lemmy.world 11 months ago
they decided not to talk too much about perpetrators after the 1970s
DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 10 months ago
We don’t hear about it because we don’t live in the USA
xc2215x@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There are so many shootings nowadays.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Nowadays? It’s a multigenerational constant of American living. It’s as important to American culture as Apple pie, obesity, and predatory healthcare.
daltotron@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Couple different factors there, but it mostly just comes down to some easily explainable things. A shooter without a motive isn’t a story that sells well, and it isn’t a story that people generally want to read. Your highest profile american crimes tend to be perpetrated by extreme weirdos. I think it’s probably just that this guy was kind of a sad old dude, and probably a pedo to boot, so it doesn’t really make for a nice, harrowing story. It’s just depressing, mostly.
Most readers, I think, want a kind of, narrative, or meta-narrative, around their media consumption. You can see people in this thread, trying to stamp one onto this shooting with the whole bump-stock thing, which I think is mostly just a minor aside, but for the fact that it kind of ties into a larger narrative about gun control, a larger meta-narrative, that serves political ends. Even in that, though, it’s not a very good grafting subject for those stories. The fact that it was passed by a republican president means that it can’t really serve mainstream political party end-goals, and bump stocks aren’t really a significant concern, despite how people might want to make them out to be. Basically their only tactical use case is something like this, otherwise, they’re mostly a toy. They don’t really have the same use-case for gang violence, like you might see with glock switches. So they don’t really present a highly defensible instance of gun control going wrong, and they don’t present a high-priority target in terms of gun control legislation.
It is almost impossible for most places to do reporting in a way where you are ever given the full scope, the full picture. It’s hard to report sobering data which might give you the larger picture, because it’s uncertain, up for contestation, boring, and unrelatable. It’s hard to report on everything in an indiscriminate way, if you’re just reporting everything without any bigger picture questions, then you’re liable to simply serving stories with no external context that would ground the reader, and you lead the reader to only ground themselves. If you do this enough, in combination with the A-B testing that might tell you what to actually report on, you’ll just end up becoming 24 hour nightly news, where you just report on murder and rapes and serve political agendas without any real knowledge of what you’re doing. Things have to inherently be passed through the filter of a meta-narrative in order for them to make any sense, to have any meaning at all. If you can’t really do that, if all you’re left with is meaningless violence, you will probably just see people ignore it.
AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 11 months ago
[deleted]paws@cyberpaws.lol 11 months ago
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theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You hear about mass shootings (random public ones that are committed to generate news stories, not ones where it’s crime, usually gang related, with multiple people shot due to poor aim) when the media wants to leverage it for a specific angle. Shootings that play into the desired narrative linger for a very long time, shootings that go against the desired narrative disappear in a few hours to a few days. It has nothing to do with how many people were killed or what questions have or have not been answered; it is simply a function of how much it works towards the desired narrative.
The desired outcome of a gun ban was achieved and the fact that there are still unanswered questions means that continued discussion hurts the desired narrative, so it isn’t discussed. Not only has it “served its purpose” but bringing it up now could have a negative effect for those that control the media so the media never brings it up. No, we don’t know why he did it, we don’t even know for sure if he actually used bump stocks, but none of that matters; the headlines got the immediate response they were designed to get and then they moved onto other headlines before questions outside of their narrative were asked.
CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 11 months ago
Those gun bans weren’t passed until 2022, which really puts the lie to the assertion that we stopped talking about it.
Maybe it’s more accurate to say we ran out of new things to say about it, and that’s why it’s not front and center in the news at this current moment. It’s also a hugely divisive issue and nobody seems to have a solution to the problem that doesn’t just piss off a bunch of other people, so in an election year it’s the last thing policy makers want to bring up.
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The bump stock ban was enacted in 2018 which marked the end of coverage for the shooting. It wasn’t passed, it was dictated by arbitrary fiat.