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Sibbo@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  consoles are purposefully made to run only the software specifically made for them.

  xbox and PS are basically mini PCs that can run the same stuff with relatively minimal tweaking. exclusive games of both platforms are pure anti-consumer bullshit.

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  • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Maybe Valve should take another crack at the console market.

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    • Sitkemkev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      With the Steam Deck and how that is, I would actually be excited for a desktop version of SteamOS. Such a great little device.

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      • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah it really is, I jump on protondb and read like 2-3 reviews to make sure the performance is adequate and there’s no major game breaking bugs and it’s fine.

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      • maynarkh@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Isn’t this it? store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown

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    • tal@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Maybe Valve should take another crack at the console market.

      I mean, you can just plug a PC into your television.

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      • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t think the point was ever to have to buy the hardware from valve, or that’s not how I saw it anyway. They wanted other manufacturers in on the steam machines, I think there were even units produced. The idea (aside from more steam sales) was to standardise PCs around specific performance levels so developers could target them without the faff of having to know how a 12900K stacks up against a Ryzen 7 7800X3D or a 13700 with a 3080, 4070Ti or a 7800XTXxXTTX.

        This game is certified steam medium tier, I have a steam high tier machine, I will get xyz performance.

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    • DonnieDarkmode@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wonder how much sense that would actually make for them. All the major console makers subsidize their products through game sales and online subscriptions. Valve already does the former, but that’s because they’re a game marketplace and it’s how they make money to begin with. I’m not sure what a steam subscription service (that’s not a game pass) would look like, since Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo offer online play and cloud saves for the cost of a subscription, whereas Valve makes those available for free.

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      • serratur@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t believe game pass is even profitable, its just to grow the platform, when its big enough they will turn up the price.

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    • Lojcs@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And lose the pc neutrality?

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      • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        So long as it’s a standardisation process I think it’s fine. Most are using prebuilt anyway so having a few standard levels SIs certify to makes it more consoley and anyone who’s rolling their own can use it as a guide or not and it’s exactly the same as the status quo.

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    • magic_lobster_party@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Gabe is already the wealthiest in the video game industry. He’s good.

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  • halvo317@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Buying companies to make them exclusive is anti-consumer. Starting first party studios to facilitate unique games being made on your platform is not anti-consumer. If anything, it should create competition for high quality exclusives by investing in unique game designers. When Microsoft just buys Rare, Mojang, Activision, Blizzard, King, Bethesda, Arkane, Alpha Dog, etc, it’s not to create competition.

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      nope, both are anti consumer.

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      • halvo317@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. I’ve never had a PC that has worked for 7 years without replacing significant parts. I’ve only had 5 PlayStations total since I was 5. I’ve had at least twenty computers during the same time frame.

        There’s investment made by Sony for games on their hardware. If the hardware were bad, developers wouldn’t use it.

        I work for a start up, and I loved getting the opportunity to build a tech platform while not having to build up the business from the ground up. I can’t do human resources, marketing, sales, yaddah yaddah. I don’t have any way of just getting my product into retail. Two years in, and we’re about to land a $125M contact. It’s green energy, so I feel like I’m saving the world.

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    • abbotsbury@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Starting first party studios to facilitate unique games being made on your platform is not anti-consumer

      I mean, it kinda is. The end result is the same: a product that can only be used in a closed ecosystem.

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      • halvo317@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        There’s a practical and ethical difference between creating something for a closed ecosystem and taking a product in an open ecosystem and closing it.

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  • NuPNuA@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s not anti-consumer, people know the market they’re buying into when they buy a console. If you want to play everything, buy a PC.

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s how anti-consumerism works. Corporations abuse their power to force consumers into buying more shit for no reason, and feel good while doing it.

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• Poggervania@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s not even including the fact that companies pay extra to keep a game on a specific console with console exclusives.

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