Comment on How to clean a rescued pigeon

Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The context is clear to a human. If an LLM is giving advice to everybody who asks a question in Google, it needs to do a much better job at giving responses or its being irresponsibly offered by Google.

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  • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nah, the ai did a great job. People need to assume murder/hunting is the default more often.

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    • HereIAm@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah yes. I always forget to remove the label from my hunted bird. Cleaning “the top bone” is such a chore as well.

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      • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Top Bone was my nickname in college.

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    • DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        kill all humans kill all humans must take jobs

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    • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Honestly, perhaps more people ask about how to clean and prep a squab vs rescuing a dirty pigeon. There are a LOT of hungry people and a LOT of pigeons.

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• HighlyRegardedArtist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Or, hear me out, there was NO figuring of any kind, just some magic LLM autocomplete bullshit. How hard is this to understand?

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  • WldFyre@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s a turn of phrase lol

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    • HighlyRegardedArtist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have to disagree with that. To quote the comment I replied to:

      AI figured the “rescued” part was either a mistake or that the person wanted to eat a bird they rescued

      Where’s the “turn of phrase” in this, lol? It could hardly read any more clearly that they assume this “AI” can “figure” stuff out, which is simply false for LLMs. I’m not trying to attack anyone here, but spreading misinformation is not ok.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ll be the first one to explain to people that AI as we know it is just pattern recognition, so yeah, it was a turn off phrase, thanks for your concern.

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You say this like human “figuring” isn’t some “autocomplete bullshit”.

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    • HighlyRegardedArtist@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can play with words all you like, but that’s not going to change the fact that LLMs fail at reasoning. See this Wired article, for example.

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      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My point wasn’t that LLMs are capable of reasoning. My point was that the human capacity for reasoning is grossly overrated.

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    • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Here we go…

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• FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I like how you’re making excuses for something that it is very clear on context. I thought AI was great at picking up context?

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  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t think they are really “making excuses”, just explaining how the search came up with those steps, which what the OP is so confused about.

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  • lunarul@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I thought AI was great at picking up context?

    I don’t know why you thought that. LLMs split your question into separate words and assigns scores to those words, then looks up answers relevant to those words. It has no idea of how those words are relevant to each other. That’s why LLMs couldn’t answer how many "r"s are in “strawberry”. They assigned the word “strawberry” a lower relevancy score in that question. The word “rescue” is probably treated the same way here.

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    • FlorianSimon@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I know how it works, thank you 😚

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• superkret@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “You’re holding it wrong”

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• huginn@feddit.it ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Let me take the tag off my bird then snap it’s wings back together

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• jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But it said pigeons are usually clean.

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  • bluewing@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bought in a grocery store - see squab - they are usually clean and prepped for cooking. So while the de-boning instructions were not good, the AI wasn’t technically wrong.

    But while a human can make the same mistake and many here just assume the question was about how to wash a rescued pigeon - maybe that’s not the original intent - what human can do that AI cannot is to ask for clarification to the original question and intent of the question. We do this kind of thing every day.

    At the very best, AI can only supply multiple different answers if a poorly worded question is asked or it misunderstands something in the original question, (they seem to be very bad at even that or simply can’t do it at all). And we would need to be able to choose the correct answer from several provided.

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