In Fallout 4 and Skyrim, modders did ultimately put out high-poly-count heads, high-detail eyes, etc. I imagine that if tradition holds, there will be modders doing the same in Skyrim.
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Techmaster@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I wonder who they hired to do the facial modelling. The environments look really good but the faces look like games from 15 years ago. I really expected more from the game that Microsoft has been making so much fanfare over.
tal@kbin.social 9 months ago
egrets@lemmy.world 9 months ago
And also probably Starfield 😉
tal@kbin.social 9 months ago
Oops, thanks, yes.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You are not wrong though, they will do the same for the next release of Skyrim.
Graphine@lemmy.world 9 months ago
TBH the faces look fine for me. At least on major NPCs that have a role. All of the NPCs out in the cities are the ones that look wonky. I give it a pass though considering you’d have to be fucking staring at them immensely to actually notice.
Either way, modders will take care of it. That’s the beauty of these games. Anything remotely dumb that Bethesda overlooks, (which is every game) will be fixed.
Still having a ton of fun.
nosurprises@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I really expected more from the game that Microsoft has been making so much fanfare over.
That’s the whole point of marketing I guess.
Techmaster@lemm.ee 9 months ago
But eventually they lose all credibility and everyone abandons the Xbox platform. It’s really getting to the point where Steam is the only one worth using. And I’ve bought every Xbox at launch, except for the Xbox One. Playstation tends to cater to people who like turn based games, aka interactive slideshows. Xbox has just been stagnating for the past few years, and this was supposed to be the game to finally prove to us once and for all that they can put out a good modern game. Overall the game itself is pretty good and I’m not seeing much bugginess at all. But the way the devs speak about this game, I really expected something they could actually be proud of. They can always improve things with patches, of course. But at this point Starfield is a first party game, so I really expect it to showcase what the Xbox hardware can do. It’s as if Microsoft has nothing to do with the QA process of all of the studios they’ve acquired.
LameName3000@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Playstation tends to cater to people who like turn based games, aka interactive slideshows.
What games do you have in mind that are turn based?
Techmaster@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Have you ever played a PlayStation?
tal@kbin.social 9 months ago
Playstation tends to cater to people who like turn based games, aka interactive slideshows.
Huh.
I'm a few generations out of date on consoles, but I was kind of disappointed with console turn-based games.
I normally think of the PC as the place to go, because the mouse and high resolution are often good partners for that.
Turn-based strategy games, stuff like Paradox titles especially seemed to be a PC thing.
Do you mean relative to the other console platforms, or relative to all other platforms in general? If so, what titles?
Maybe turn-based RPGs or something, stuff in the vein of Final Fantasy? Is that what you mean?
Techmaster@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Yes all of the Square Enix games are massively popular PlayStation titles and turn based. And most of them are PlayStation exclusives. There’s a lot more than just Square Enix. The PlayStation is rife with them.
PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Meh, being able to build your own ship like Skyrim and kerbal space progran had a baby sounds like it makes up for that but I haven’t played the game so idk
Techmaster@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’ve been playing it and it’s a great game. I just wish they could have gotten the faces good enough for the game to showcase what the Xbox and PC are capable of. The environments even look great. They really dropped the ball considering it’s Microsoft’s biggest first party launch in something like 5 years.
Death_Equity@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The shipbuilding is limited in order to try and not break the game.
You can only have one cockpit, warp drive, fusion generator, and shield generator. You can’t have dual core and double shielded guns with an cockpit strapped to them that obliterates anything in sight.
It is more like Fallout meets Cyberpunk 2077 in space with a complex loading screen mini game that doubles as a remote inventory, which you can spend hours customizing somewhat.
NMS’s use of ships is far better, like being able to fly around from place to place instead of loading screen around. NMS’s ship flying with SF’s shipbuilding would have been ideal.
Hopefully modders will be able to fix the shipbuilding.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 months ago
Have no real interest in playing it, but do they still do the Skyrim thing where they have like 5 wildly different voice actors, so it feels like the guards are following you from town to town?
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I’m sorry, but why? Why do people do this every time a new game comes out? This is what Bethesda does, and Microsoft isn’t much better.
Every new game it’s like people forget what these companies do.
Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s crazy.
Bethesda have owned id Software, the best graphics engineers in the business, for a decade. They now even have Microsoft money. This is still, somehow, the best they can do.
theragu40@lemmy.world 9 months ago
No it is not the best they can do. I haven’t played starfield yet, but it should be obvious that no company with shareholders to whom they need to answer is ever going to do “the best they can do”.
That isn’t even their target, at least not overall. Their target is maximum profitability. Putting forth maximum effort for the best graphics is not going to result in max profits, so they were never going to do that.
And that’s to say nothing of the fact that graphical showcases just aren’t what Bethesda does in the first place. No one should have expected that. This isn’t an id game.
rambaroo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
No one’s asking for a “graphical showcase”. M sick of people defending Bethesda by saying that’s just what they do. Literally the only company I see people trot this line out for.
Graphine@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Starfield…doesn’t suck though.
I’ve sunk 20 hours into it so far and it’s amazing. You people just have your expectations up the ass for a company that is great at one formula and expect them to do the other when they never said they would. It’s ya’lls fucking fault for expecting No Mans Sky to be the greatest fucking game of all time at release over a company that made fucking Joe Danger.
Oblivion and Skyrim have the same basic formula with little differences sprinkled in here and there mechanics wise that make it feel different, but familiar. Starfield is the same way and I fully expect ES 6 to do the same.
Good god you people are negative.
rambaroo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This happens with every Bethesda release because they overhype their games and keep their PR vague with that people can fill in the days any way they want to.
And then people like you go and attack other fans instead of holding Bethesda accountable for their bullshit. Pathetic bootlicking garbage.
Graphine@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Overhype? Please give me an example of overhyping. That whole, “See that mountain? You can climb it” meme was legitimately true. And he actually said you can WALK to it. Misquote. So there’s one debunked.
And no, they really don’t keep their PR vague. They had a fucking 40 minute direct all about the game several months before release. How much more specific do people need it to be? Anyone who has ever played a Bethesda game knows what to expect. They flat out showed the cutscene system when landing and taking off, and even Todd himself said there would be loading screens in several interviews.
So the entire writing is half assed in Skyrim? Really? Even though it’s extremely memorable, the Dark Brotherhood questline is still considered among the greatest they’ve ever written, and Morrowinds story is considered GOAT to this day?
I can absolutely understand Fallout 4. That was a major step back and I do not like that games story. It was boring and generic, along with the dialogue. Fallout 3 was a bit better but not by much. But seriously? Every single Bethesda Game? As for gameplay elements you’ll have to be more specific.
If you’re ok with Bethesda never innovating that’s fine, but stop trying yti shut down other people’s valid criticisms or acting like they’re stupid for expecting and wanting higher quality releases.
Bethesda has plenty of things in their games to critique. Nobody is denying that. I already critiqued earlier. And I don’t have a problem with criticism. My issue is when people critique a NEW game they haven’t even fucking played yet based off of things that existed before. And then better yet, playing the game and just scraping the barrel for the littlest shit to call it “garbage” because it’s tradition and they want to feel validated and big. That’s not critique. That’s just being a fucking idiot.
If you don’t like Bethesda games, fine. I think the majority of people who are bitching anyway are just folks who don’t like them to begin with. Which makes even less sense as to WHY they feel the need to. Bottom line, you don’t got to like Starfield or any Bethesda game, but come up with some legitimate arguments first. And most importantly, JUST DON’T FUCKING PLAY IT.
Other than that, I fail to understand why people want to shit on Bethesda nowadays and act like the games are complete trash when they’ve won 4 game of the year awards already.
tal@kbin.social 9 months ago
Yeah, having read over a bunch of comments here, a lot of the comments that are unhappy about Starfield are basically people expecting it to be like No Man's Sky, or some people who just generally don't like Bethesda games in general. The ones that are happy tend to be people comparing it to earlier Bethesda games.
I really like Bethesda games, so for me, that's great. But I do also get that there are people who don't like Bethesda games, and for those people, being told that they're wrong and that they should like it drives them nuts.
I think a good rule of thumb is to probably expect Starfield to be similar to earlier Bethesda games, like Skyrim and Fallout 4. If you like those games, you'll probably like Starfield. If you dislike them, you're probably going to dislike Starfield.
fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Eh? Point out at what point in my life I ever gave a shit about no man’s sky…
Did you reply to the wrong person or…?
Graphine@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Was replying to you, dude above, and everyone else.
avater@lemmy.world 9 months ago
that’s your opinion. A lot of people have a lot of fun with bethesda games…
paraphrand@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You’d think Bethesda would notice what you claim to have.
That’s the point.
Cabrio@lemmy.world 9 months ago
No I wouldn’t think that, they’ve never acted in a manner that indicates that they have that capacity, why would I assume they do?
paraphrand@lemmy.world 9 months ago
What a negative defeatist POV. A Bummer.
rambaroo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
What’s the point of this comment? People are allowed to complain and criticize Bethesda for the things they seemingly refuse to improve on.