Comment on Absolutely nothing happened June 1989

alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  “After several weeks of standoffs and violent confrontations between the army and demonstrators left many on both sides severely injured, a meeting held among the CCP’s top leadership on 1 June concluded with a decision to clear the square.[15][13][14] The troops advanced into central parts of Beijing on the city’s major thoroughfares in the early morning hours of 4 June and engaged in bloody clashes with demonstrators attempting to block them, in which many people – demonstrators, bystanders, and soldiers – were killed. Estimates of the death toll vary from several hundred to several thousand, with thousands more wounded.[16][17][18][19][20][21]”

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  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    As I said, there were clashes at major thoroughfares surrounding the square, there was not tanks gunning down masses of protesters inside the square.

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    • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Who said anything about tanks? Did you just make that up and denied it yourself? Lmao.

      Student protesters where shot up and killed. Indiscriminataley. I could not fucking care less what type of pew pew was used.

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      • idunnololz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yeah but if you don’t know what exact bullet they used or what they had for breakfast that morning then your argument is invalid I’m afraid /s

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      • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It’s what I learned in highschool and I see it repeated every time this discussion comes up, that there were a bunch of peaceful protesters inside the square, and tanks came over, machine gunned them, then ran the bodies over.

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• YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Like clockwork you’re here to deny the many atrocities of authoritarian despots.

  What do you even get out of constantly getting your metaphoric-cock beaten into the dirt 2 dozen times a day?

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  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    What exactly do you think happened, and what do you think I am claiming happened?

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    • orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Please don’t deflect.

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      • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I am not deflecting, I am trying to understand what you think I am denying.

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    • YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      No, I’m not playing your games.

      Answer the question:

      What do you get out of having your metaphoric-cock beaten into the ground 24 times a day?

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• umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  sshhh, these people just want to china bad in peace.

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  • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Can please be a moron in silence? Or go be a moron somewhere else.

    “These people”… Lmao

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      someone got mad

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      • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yes, I did. Tianmen square massacre deniers make me mad.

        It should make you mad as well, if you were a decent person.

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      • YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Quick, hop onto a sockpuppet account to make yourself seem less brain damaged 🤡

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      • orcrist@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Don’t have a hissy fit about someone else’s emotions. It’s just a comment.

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    • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Can please be a moron

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      • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Thanks, it’s called a typo.

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  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    No nuance, only china bad.

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    • YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Nah, China kills it’s own people because the ruler can’t ever tolerate handing power to anyone else.

      Nice try tho 🤡

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      • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        The average CPC presidency length over the last 70 years is like 8 years.

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    • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Wow, you actually can use your brain. That was spectacular, you should do this more often, instead of what you did back there.

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• basmati@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  You’re never going to convert sinophones. It’s like trying to convert white supremacists, except even more unlikely to work since there is zero pressure to not be sinophonc in society.

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Criticizing a refund isn’t racism against the people living under that regime.

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    • basmati@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The people control that regime in a much more robust democracy than the US has.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        This has nothing to do with what I was saying. Try again.

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      • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Let’s agree that both are bad. What is your goal with this whataboutism?

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  • Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Imagine knowing what words mean.

    At this point I should ask for a delicious cookie recipe…

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    This is no different from calling critics of Israel antisemites even though plenty of us Jews do it too.

    There are a huge number of Chinese people not living in China who are very open about their contempt for Xi’s regime.

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• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Only when someone denies the massacre do I link to these horrific NSFL photos.

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  • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    You do know that the pictures support what he said right?

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Armed troops and tanks made their way to the square on the night of June 3 and into the morning hours of June 4. They soon shot those who stood in their way and crushed those who wouldn’t move out of it.

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      • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Once again, that’s not out of line with what he and I said. There were barricades and fighting in the streets of Beijing, but the people occupying the square were negotiated with and peacefully dispersed.

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• rsuri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Your comment after being imported into China:

  The chinese narrative isn’t that nothing happened , it’s that there was a battle outside the square, including protesters lynching and burning cops and cops gunning down unarmed protesters on bikes from their trucks. This is corroborated by videos and pictures.

  The western narrative of tanks going into the square and gunning down tens of thousands of protesters (after getting delayed by tank man) is blatantly false, as you can see in the uncut tankman video pans over to show the square the tanks are leaving was empty except for some bikes.

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• hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Fuck you! ACAB!

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• davel@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Reporter: [REDACTED]
  Reason: Misinformation

  This same user falsely reported Theodore Herzl to be a “fringe” Zionist yesterday. They do this rather often, I’ve noticed. I can only assume they do it as a censorship tactic.

  They also mod a “disinformation” Lemmy community, presumably without a hint of irony.

  • 1989 Tian’anmen Square riots
  • A Note on the Tiananmen Protests
  • Images from Tiananmen 1989 the West never shows (NSFW / CW: violence and death)
  • Tank Man video footage. Tiananmen Square, Beijing, 1989
  • The Tian’anmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie.
  • How psy-ops warriors fooled me about Tiananmen Square: a warning
  • [Carl Zha’s] Memories of Tiananmen Protest

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• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Fuck you.

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• Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  youtu.be/kMKvxJ-Js3A?feature=shared

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