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cheddar@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I was looking up e-scooters and a bunch of 1-star reviews pointed out how their battery caught fire.

  Could have been fake reviews by competitors but either way, it freaked me out.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A lot of them will be fine but some of them are cheap knockoffs and they have unsafe wiring. It’s not actually the batteries themselves as they’ll probably be the same batteries it’s the way the batteries are connected up that makes them more likely to explode.

    Unless you are Samsung in which case it 100% was the batteries at fault not the wiring.

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    • r00ty@kbin.life ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lithium batteries have a very high energy density. When that's released all at once with a short circuit or very high current draw resulting in thermal runaway, that's when these fires start. The great news is, they're self fuelling fires too!

      But, most reputable manufacturers, create charging/protection circuits that protect the batteries against such situations. Making them far less likely (but still possible) to happen.

      The problem you're going to get is when there's disreputable companies, operating in countries with less stringent safety laws that are operating the production, processing and shipping entirely outside of the sight of countries with safety rules. Well, then you get a product with a fake FCC/CE sticker on it, that is very dangerous indeed.

      I will not buy electronics from those sites for this very reason. Batteries, chargers and power supplies are usually very shoddy from these companies.

      It's not to say don't buy stuff made by country X. Because there's plenty of stuff I have bought made in, these countries but sold by companies that DO make sure there's some testing done, and they're not fake stickering everything. But, we all know the companies I'm talking about I think. Also, ebay (because private sellers buy in bulk from these places and then resell them) is something to be careful of too.

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    • ByteWelder@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It can also be due to unsafe charging (over-voltage) or unsafe discharging (over-current, generating too much heat).

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s certainly an issue with some of them. I wouldn’t buy a random no name one from alibaba. It might be safe. Or not.

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  • cheddar@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I keep my scooter at the furthest point from the apartment exit just to be on the safe side. I also haven’t heard many bad things about this particular model (Ninebot G30 Max).

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  • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A home here burned down. Stay safe kids.

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• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If it’s a cheap one, only charge it while home or somehow isolate it from flammables. Keep a fire extinguisher nearby always.

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  • holgersson@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    An extinguisher that can actually handle Lithium fires though. A regular CO2 extinguisher wont do anything against burning Lithium

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Honestly, don’t bother with an extinguisher. The best solution is to put it in a bucket of sand on a concrete floor or something. It’s probably safer to just let it burn out than to try to fight the fire.

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  • XTL@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Also cellphones, laptops, power tools and just about everything.

    Gasoline? Don’t let it inside in the house. Ever.

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    • IGuessThisIsForNSFW@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Who is bringing gas inside? I’m struggling to come up with even one legitimate reason to bring gasoline inside.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Eh, I keep it in my garage. If it catches on fire, the fire will spread to the rest of the house pretty quickly.

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      • desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        gasoline powered heaters?

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    • psud@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You don’t often hear about laptops burning. And many of those spend their while lives plugged in

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      • XTL@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes. These are extremely rare. Some models, like iirc a galaxy note and MacBook Pro have been singled out.

        There was actually a house fire a while ago not too far from where I live that forensics said was started by a device in a charger at night.

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