Also, a local police officer was alerted to him. The cop then went up there, where he says Crooks pointed his rifle at him and he retreated to get help. So this added a bunch of stress and dramatically cut the time frame to take his shot. I think this may have played into the miss, assuming what the cop was reported saying, is what happened
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finley@lemm.ee 4 months ago
tbf, Crooks wasn’t a trained assassin, and was shooting from 130m away
Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 months ago
That’s a massive fuckup if there was someone on the roof with a rifle, and that wasn’t communicated to the secret service.
Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 months ago
IIRC one saw him up there scoping around, but thought it may be SS, as their plans weren’t well communicated to the lowest ranks, the cops on the ground. However, when other people described him one cop went up there. He started shooting immediately afterward. So he may have notified them ASAP, like on his radio, but it was too late. Crooks spot got blown and it forced him to act.
Or so this seems to be the narrative at this early point
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Yeah, that sounds like how it went.
finley@lemm.ee 4 months ago
i read another post that really pissed me off about the cops’ response. apparently, they saw him scoping out buildings with a rangefinder for a while beforehand, and watched him set up and take the shot without doing much to stop him.
thorbot@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yeah pisses me off too. They should have helped him more
VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
He apparently was rejected from his shooting group due to inability to aim.
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 months ago
i dont get this narrative. little to no experience and hes inches away from a killing headshot at that distance. thats fucking hard as hell to do
finley@lemm.ee 4 months ago
someone in another thread was like, “he had a scope!” and i’m like, “so? have you ever shot through a scope? it’s not like a video game where scope guarantees a headshot. it just makes it a bit easier.”
130m is really far, and an AR isn’t a sniper rifle anyway
tux7350@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Woah, naw 130 meters is not far at all for an AR-15. Max effective range for a point target is 500 meters, meaning you can accurately hit an average sized person at that range. If you have something like a standard issued trijicon ACOG RCO, look at the BDC (Bullet Drop Compensation) lines go all the way to 800m. Interestingly enough too, the width of those lines is the width of an average person’s shoulders at that range.
Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
There comments on the AR accuracy are blowing my mind. I hit all 40 targets and got marksman with the M16 and I never touched a gun before when we went to the range to qualify, a few others did also and everyone hit pretty damn accurately up to 300 yards away all on iron sights. And a properly sighted scope helps significantly, especially if you’ve planned your shot in advance. The only way someone thinks a sniper rifle is needed for those ranges surely has to be ignorant of what it’s like to shoot one of these guns.
Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
Any time I use an ACOG in the game I try using the sight to range. I’m almost always let down
bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
OH handy I’ll remember that when I’m playing Arma next
IMongoose@lemmy.world 4 months ago
One report has a cop surprising him too, and he pointed the gun at the cop. So it was turn around for cop > turn back around > aim > fire. I don’t think I’ve seen the time between the cop and firing but I think it was quick. Dude was probably shaking like crazy.
DogWater@lemmy.world 4 months ago
This is…not entirely accurate. 200 yards is WELL within 556x45’s effective range. Like by a lot. At that range your bullet isn’t even dropping more than 4 inches.
It’s not that it’s a super easy shot for a novice, but saying that it’s remarkable that he even hit him because of the range is crazy.
It’s remarkable because of the stress and lack of training.
finley@lemm.ee 4 months ago
That’s what I’m talking about
evidences@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Should also be noted his rifle didn’t have a scope, he was shooting with iron sights.
Lightsong@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Should’ve used a magic bullet.
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 4 months ago
I read in another thread that he may have hit a teleprompter and pieces from that caused the wound.