Comment on non vegan pizza time

SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Forester@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If you’re looking for context, this is a shit post about my recent interactions with a certain community of vegans

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Makes sense, I saw your instance and I had questions that I did not want to ask.

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    • Forester@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, we don’t associate with those people either

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s fur the best.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Vegancirclejerk?

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    • Forester@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My comment history is not locked

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      • ignotum@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It is however Removed

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• flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Mammals need to be pregnant to produce milk, so to get cow milk you have to impregnate a cow. That’s what they mean by rapist.

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  • Forester@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They only need to be pregnant once. The calf milk is different than normal milk and can not be sold. The stuff we drink is what happens after a calf is born but you never stop milking so the cow stays productive. I think you need to revisit mamal biology. Once the process of Milk production is started milk will be produced in most mammals till the long term cessation of mamary tisssue stimulation.

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    • Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Even if what you said was true (spoilers: it’s not and you’re making shit up, most dairy cows are impregnated once a year) your argument is that it’s ok because we only rape and kill the cows calf shortly after birth once.

      It’s fine that you have shitty opinions, but stop spreading misinformation to support them. And definitely stop doing it while using big words to smugly pretend you’re smarter than other people.

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      • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        no one is raping cows

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      • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        most calves are brought to full weight before slaughter

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    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Im sorry, but what kind of mammal biology are you talking about that says that two different types of milk come from the same animal?

      Also, milk production usually does go down somewhat over time and sometimes even does cease, and it’s different for every individual, which makes it less predictable and less profitable to just impregnate a cow once. This is why dairy farmers almost always try to impregnate their cows yearly. Here’s one source, there’s plenty more coming up if you look it up on a search engine though www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/farm/…/farming

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      • Forester@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Imagine having access to the entire repository of human knowledge at your fingertips and being this ignorant.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colostrum

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    • Beaver@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Nope that’s not how it works at all. They keep reimpregnanting the mother and then they take the calf away for slaughter while the mother cries for her child for months on end.

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    • flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      And? My point still stands, a cow that hasn’t been impregnated will not produce milk. Is only doing it once supposed to make it better?

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve never had to impregnate a cow.

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    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Think about dairy what you will, but ‘I didn’t do it, I paid someone else to do it’ is never a very solid argument in a debate on ethics.

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      • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        only farmers pay for artificial insemination.

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  • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    it’s not rape, it’s a veterinary procedure called artificial insemination and it’s safer than letting a bull mount them.

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    • Beaver@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Lmao it doesn’t matter how you sugarcoat it. It is rape nonetheless.

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      • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        no, it’s not

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• inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Plus who fucks an animal before you eat it?

  Everyone eating dairy.

  Cows are mammals. They produce milk for their calves, its not something that cows just naturally produce. So the dairy industry only exists from repeated forcible impregnation.

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Everyone who drinks milk fucks cows?

    Am I supposed to take you seriously right now?

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    • Forester@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Now you see what I’ve been dealing with

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ll just throw a piece of bacon on my cheeseburger tonight in honour of that commenter.

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    • toomanypancakes@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Everyone who drinks milk is funding the repeated rape of cows, to be more specific.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Isn’t the dairy industry heavily subsidized so would anyone paying taxes be doing that too?

        Do you pay taxes?

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      • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        no one is raping cows

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      • tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Everyone who drinks milk is funding the repeated rape of cows

        False. I drink goat milk!

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    • Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It’s like if you pay a hitman to do some murders for you. Are you a murderer? I guess not technically, but ‘conspirator to commit murder’ doesn’t have the same ring to it. Thus we just opt for rapist, since you support an industry that annually rapes cows and kills their calves so that you can enjoy a tall glass of cow juice.

      It’s ok if that’s what you want to do. No judgement here.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I pay taxes so am I responsible for the murders and wars my government commits?

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      • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        no one is raping cows

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      • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        buying a product from a shelf is nothing like hiring a hitman.

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    • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      lol

      How the fuck did you think milk was produced? This is literally grade school biology. Farmers rape cows for their milk, and you pay them for the privilege.

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      • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think you seriously underestimate how much non-human raping goes on in the animal world. Many species have dicks that have evolved specifically to facilitate rape.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You make it sound like the farmers are all about the cow 'tang.

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      • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        no one is raping cows

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  • Pieresqi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    forcible impregnation

    Rape. You meant rape.

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    • VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      no one is raping cows

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• protist@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Impossible burgers cooked right on the skillet are pretty damn good, imo. And easy. I’m no vegetarian but we keep them in our weeknight rotation.

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s fine, just remember they’re junk food and not the health food people seem to think they are.

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    • 5wim@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      They have more protein, fiber, and iron than beef.

      Red meat consumption has been shown to increase risks of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and cancer, full stop.

      I don’t know what a “health food” would be, but I would probably classify them as foods that are healthier alternatives to foods that are proven bad for your health. Which is what “Impossible” etc. are.

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      • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Health food is anything that isn’t processed to hell and back.

        Impossible is just alternative junk food. Like vapes are for cigarettes. Healthier still means crap. I’d probably just use mushrooms or tofu as a patty if I wanted an alternative to beef.

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    • protist@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      They’re not really a junk food. They’re not as healthy as eating straight-up vegetables, but they’re definitely not junk food.

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        They’re nearly as salty as potato chips and loaded with saturated fat.

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Every 10 percentage points increase in plant-sourced non-UPF consumption was associated with a 7% lower risk of CVD (95% CI 0.91–0.95) and a 13% lower risk of CVD mortality (0.80–0.94). Conversely, plant-sourced UPF consumption was associated with a 5% increased risk (1.03–1.07) and a 12% higher mortality (1.05–1.20). The contribution of all UPF was linked to higher CVD risk and mortality, and no evidence for an association between contribution of all plant-sourced foods and CVD incidence and mortality was observed.

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• slackassassin@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Naw, they’re fine. Processed food is fine, too. Everything in moderation and a side salad.

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• Clent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Vegans need to downvote anyone that disagrees when them is proof their ideas cannot stand scrutiny. They do not relish in a debate of in any capacity. They don’t even have original ideas, it’s the same couple talking points because it’s ideology base. They call themselves converts but won’t accept it’s a religion.

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  • Forester@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Amen

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• cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yea, but they also hate the lab grown stuff that’s being worked on which is so close to the real thing without all the killing and cruelty and stuff

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  • iiGxC@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Beyond burgers are literally right there lmao. You don’t need lab grown meat to stop supporting animal abuse, it’s a thinly veiled excuse to avoid having to change and grow as a person

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    • cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      2 things, 1) I can’t afford it as a regular item 2) Id say they’re maybe 70% there, there’s still a taste and texture issue. I personally don’t mind it and would happily switch over if it weren’t for #1

      Vegans/Vegetarians will never get the vast majority of people out there to give up meat, best shot is that lab meat if they can get the cost equivalent to real meat.

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      • iiGxC@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Lab grown meat is gonna be even more expensive, and 70% is way more than enough there that it’s no excuse to support animal abuse

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• Toes@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Another frustrating thing about alternative meat burgers is they are often still using animal products…

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• Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Plus who fucks an animal before you eat it?

  Yeah! Most of the girls I’ve dated prefer it the other way around

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