Mammals need to be pregnant to produce milk, so to get cow milk you have to impregnate a cow. That’s what they mean by rapist.
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SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Most meat alternatives like impossible burgers are bullshit.
Ultra processed shit food.
There’s a lot of good vegan food that doesn’t pretend to be burgers, ribs or anything else besides what is it.
Plus who fucks an animal before you eat it?
flamingos@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Forester@yiffit.net 5 months ago
They only need to be pregnant once. The calf milk is different than normal milk and can not be sold. The stuff we drink is what happens after a calf is born but you never stop milking so the cow stays productive. I think you need to revisit mamal biology. Once the process of Milk production is started milk will be produced in most mammals till the long term cessation of mamary tisssue stimulation.
Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
Even if what you said was true (spoilers: it’s not and you’re making shit up, most dairy cows are impregnated once a year) your argument is that it’s ok because we only rape and kill the cows calf shortly after birth once.
It’s fine that you have shitty opinions, but stop spreading misinformation to support them. And definitely stop doing it while using big words to smugly pretend you’re smarter than other people.
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no one is raping cows
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
most calves are brought to full weight before slaughter
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Im sorry, but what kind of mammal biology are you talking about that says that two different types of milk come from the same animal?
Also, milk production usually does go down somewhat over time and sometimes even does cease, and it’s different for every individual, which makes it less predictable and less profitable to just impregnate a cow once. This is why dairy farmers almost always try to impregnate their cows yearly. Here’s one source, there’s plenty more coming up if you look it up on a search engine though www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/farm/…/farming
Forester@yiffit.net 5 months ago
Imagine having access to the entire repository of human knowledge at your fingertips and being this ignorant.
Beaver@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Nope that’s not how it works at all. They keep reimpregnanting the mother and then they take the calf away for slaughter while the mother cries for her child for months on end.
flamingos@feddit.uk 5 months ago
And? My point still stands, a cow that hasn’t been impregnated will not produce milk. Is only doing it once supposed to make it better?
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’ve never had to impregnate a cow.
Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Think about dairy what you will, but ‘I didn’t do it, I paid someone else to do it’ is never a very solid argument in a debate on ethics.
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
only farmers pay for artificial insemination.
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
it’s not rape, it’s a veterinary procedure called artificial insemination and it’s safer than letting a bull mount them.
Beaver@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Lmao it doesn’t matter how you sugarcoat it. It is rape nonetheless.
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no, it’s not
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Plus who fucks an animal before you eat it?
Everyone eating dairy.
Cows are mammals. They produce milk for their calves, its not something that cows just naturally produce. So the dairy industry only exists from repeated forcible impregnation.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Everyone who drinks milk fucks cows?
Am I supposed to take you seriously right now?
Forester@yiffit.net 5 months ago
Now you see what I’ve been dealing with
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I’ll just throw a piece of bacon on my cheeseburger tonight in honour of that commenter.
toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Everyone who drinks milk is funding the repeated rape of cows, to be more specific.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Isn’t the dairy industry heavily subsidized so would anyone paying taxes be doing that too?
Do you pay taxes?
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no one is raping cows
tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 5 months ago
Everyone who drinks milk is funding the repeated rape of cows
False. I drink goat milk!
Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
It’s like if you pay a hitman to do some murders for you. Are you a murderer? I guess not technically, but ‘conspirator to commit murder’ doesn’t have the same ring to it. Thus we just opt for rapist, since you support an industry that annually rapes cows and kills their calves so that you can enjoy a tall glass of cow juice.
It’s ok if that’s what you want to do. No judgement here.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I pay taxes so am I responsible for the murders and wars my government commits?
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
buying a product from a shelf is nothing like hiring a hitman.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 5 months ago
lol
How the fuck did you think milk was produced? This is literally grade school biology. Farmers rape cows for their milk, and you pay them for the privilege.
cm0002@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I think you seriously underestimate how much non-human raping goes on in the animal world. Many species have dicks that have evolved specifically to facilitate rape.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
You make it sound like the farmers are all about the cow 'tang.
Pieresqi@lemmy.world 5 months ago
forcible impregnation
Rape. You meant rape.
VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 months ago
no one is raping cows
protist@mander.xyz 5 months ago
Impossible burgers cooked right on the skillet are pretty damn good, imo. And easy. I’m no vegetarian but we keep them in our weeknight rotation.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s fine, just remember they’re junk food and not the health food people seem to think they are.
5wim@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
They have more protein, fiber, and iron than beef.
Red meat consumption has been shown to increase risks of heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and cancer, full stop.
I don’t know what a “health food” would be, but I would probably classify them as foods that are healthier alternatives to foods that are proven bad for your health. Which is what “Impossible” etc. are.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Health food is anything that isn’t processed to hell and back.
Impossible is just alternative junk food. Like vapes are for cigarettes. Healthier still means crap. I’d probably just use mushrooms or tofu as a patty if I wanted an alternative to beef.
protist@mander.xyz 5 months ago
They’re not really a junk food. They’re not as healthy as eating straight-up vegetables, but they’re definitely not junk food.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They’re nearly as salty as potato chips and loaded with saturated fat.
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Naw, they’re fine. Processed food is fine, too. Everything in moderation and a side salad.
Clent@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Vegans need to downvote anyone that disagrees when them is proof their ideas cannot stand scrutiny. They do not relish in a debate of in any capacity. They don’t even have original ideas, it’s the same couple talking points because it’s ideology base. They call themselves converts but won’t accept it’s a religion.
Forester@yiffit.net 5 months ago
Amen
cm0002@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yea, but they also hate the lab grown stuff that’s being worked on which is so close to the real thing without all the killing and cruelty and stuff
iiGxC@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Beyond burgers are literally right there lmao. You don’t need lab grown meat to stop supporting animal abuse, it’s a thinly veiled excuse to avoid having to change and grow as a person
cm0002@lemmy.world 5 months ago
2 things, 1) I can’t afford it as a regular item 2) Id say they’re maybe 70% there, there’s still a taste and texture issue. I personally don’t mind it and would happily switch over if it weren’t for #1
Vegans/Vegetarians will never get the vast majority of people out there to give up meat, best shot is that lab meat if they can get the cost equivalent to real meat.
iiGxC@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
Lab grown meat is gonna be even more expensive, and 70% is way more than enough there that it’s no excuse to support animal abuse
Toes@ani.social 5 months ago
Another frustrating thing about alternative meat burgers is they are often still using animal products…
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Plus who fucks an animal before you eat it?
Yeah! Most of the girls I’ve dated prefer it the other way around
Forester@yiffit.net 5 months ago
If you’re looking for context, this is a shit post about my recent interactions with a certain community of vegans
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Makes sense, I saw your instance and I had questions that I did not want to ask.
Forester@yiffit.net 5 months ago
Yeah, we don’t associate with those people either
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 5 months ago
That’s fur the best.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Vegancirclejerk?
Forester@yiffit.net 5 months ago
My comment history is not locked
ignotum@lemmy.world 5 months ago
It is however Removed