The scientific method includes peer reviewing.
You donât have to post it on a commercial database, only free one will do. But it needs to be accessible by the world.
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venoft@lemmy.world âš5â© âšmonthsâ© ago
Sheâs wrong though, everything following the scientific method is science. The fact that you didnât pay out of your ass to publicize your research doesnât matter. Of course it reaches less people, but thatâs a separate issue.
The scientific method includes peer reviewing.
You donât have to post it on a commercial database, only free one will do. But it needs to be accessible by the world.
Does it require independent peer review though? How do you achieve that with publication? The predatory publication system is a different point.
Wouldnât this imply that science didnât exist before academic publication existed? Was zero science conducted before the ~1600s then?
Well youâre not entirely incorrect with that assumption. What we call science today is actually the Scientific Method Which is a much more skeptical approach to science than the earlier methods, hence the credibility. I like many others agree that the fees built into the system is quiet absurd but currently that is the only legit way to get others evaluate your research.
The word âlegitâ there is doing alot of work.
I ask with genuine curiosity, as I am not an academic and come from a software development mindset
Why is paid-for services the only âlegitâ way to get others to evaluate your research? Why is it not kosher to publicly publish your research, and simply invite peers to evaluate it? This idea is essentially the entire process behind Open Source Software, and is the backbone of most modern tools/programs/apps/software/linux development.
What does paying a publishing company provide you, as a researcher, that makes it worth it?
Fair point, I should specify âmodern scienceâ. Thereâs quite a gap of scientific quality between traditional medicine and modern science based medicine for example.
Was zero science conducted before the ~1600s then?
I mean, yes. The framework of studying things that we understand as science did not always exist.
Every time someone thinks science and studying natural phenomena are the same thing Newton sheds a single tear from his non-poked eye.
No, peer reviewing can happen in many ways. But it needs to be public.
Sending letters also allows for peer reviewing.
Before the 20th century most famous physicists referred to themselves as ânatural philosophers,â not scientists. The P in PhD is for philosophy. The word âscienceâ refers to a modern social phenomenon, a sort of peer review methodology that generates shared public knowledge.
Possibly. I canât come up with any major results that wasnât either logic, engineering or tradition. But itâs an interesting question. What might count as science before then?
Pretty sure it was like this:
not as a discipline. If you publish an experiment to the extent it can be reproduced, it is science, so its happened before but in a less intentional fashion
Thereâs no such thing as a scientific method
He probably means the idealized scientific method you learn at school is not what really happens in reality, in particular âsoftâ science fields may not be able to follow it strictly and still do good science.
Doesnât this difference make the scientific method not real?
The scientific method varies from field to field. In medicine you usually need to proof it by taking a significant amount people. Then create a control group and a testing group. Then test your medicine on the group and give the other placebos.
When you can measure health improvement for one group over the other there is a reasonable amount of proof that the medicine works.
The scientific method has one major goal. Reduce human made errors in science. Humans do not work objectively. Humans always have an bias. Things like reproduceable tests and peer review try to reduce the bias.
Take 10 labs and youâll get 10 definitions of the scientific method. Itâs just a tradition that yields some results.
peer review try to reduce the bias.
Sounds like you havenât been peer reviewed enough
everything following the scientific method is science
Iâm fairly certain âreport conclusionsâ is a pretty big deal in the scientific method.
True a lot of science is done in industry and the corporate world and not published to keep it a trade secret. It is still science but not shared.
photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš5â© âšmonthsâ© ago
Yann LeCun is a dude
baseless_discourse@mander.xyz âš5â© âšmonthsâ© ago
With all these âsheâ talk in this comment section, I was like when did LeCun change gender?
I donât even do anything remotely related to AI, but I know LeCun is a dude.