yeahiknow3
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- Comment on What grass starvation does to the perma-online 1 week ago:
Fair enough. I don’t begrudge your enjoyment.
- Comment on What grass starvation does to the perma-online 2 weeks ago:
You expressed surprise that Herbert is a rabid conservative. I pointed out that the book you claim to like is literally a celebration of modern fascism.
Yeah, but that isn’t why people like it.
Correct. People who like Dune generally like it because it’s the biggest book they’ve read, not because they were paying attention to the prose or narrative quality of its boot-licking plotline.
- Comment on What grass starvation does to the perma-online 2 weeks ago:
The story glorifies a eugenically engineered monarchy and waxes poetic about the evils of homosexuality.
- Comment on What grass starvation does to the perma-online 2 weeks ago:
Ironic comment, since Dune’s story is biblical supernatural nonsense written by a racist reactionary narcissist who probably does think the Bible is the greatest book of all time.
- Comment on What grass starvation does to the perma-online 2 weeks ago:
Yes, but the book also became really popular among the Gen X crowd, whose hunger for sci fi was fueled by things like Star Wars.
- Comment on What grass starvation does to the perma-online 2 weeks ago:
Dune’s prose is stilted at best, the actual story is ridiculous, and the characters are unprincipled and shallow. You sound like someone who’s read maybe 100 books in his life.
- Comment on What grass starvation does to the perma-online 2 weeks ago:
Dune is Twilight for boys. Although the movies are better than the books though, the actual story is spectacularly awful. Have you ever had someone try to explain it to you? It’s unhinged. And the book is so poorly written from a literary perspective.
- Comment on What grass starvation does to the perma-online 2 weeks ago:
It’s a relief then that Dune is one of the dumbest fucking stories of all time and casting doesn’t matter.
- Comment on What grass starvation does to the perma-online 2 weeks ago:
It’s… a joke. Let me explain it: Kyle Jenner (an evil billionaire) is a despicable human being. Touching anything that she has touched, included a hot guy, is disgusting. That’s the joke.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
Oh my god. So the machine won’t do terrible immoral things because they are unpopular on the internet. Well ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
I’m fairly certain my explanations are so succinct and simple they can be grasped by a teenager. I don’t have the talent to simplify them any further.
Take a class in theoretical computer science. In the mean time, I beg you to stfu.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
Omg. Why do you talk about shit you don’t understand with such utter confidence? Being a fucking moron has to be the chillest way to go through the world. I think I agree with your zombie AI about the culling. We gotta cull you dude, sorry. Best harm-reduction strategy to empower humanity.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
What the hell does “empower humanity” mean? When you tell it to reduce harm, how do you know it won’t undertake a course of eugenics? How do you know it won’t see fit that people like you, by virtue of your stupidity, are culled or sterilized?
Why do you expect an unthinking, non-deliberative zombie process to know what you mean by “empower humanity”? There are facts about what is GOOD and what is BAD that can only be grasped through subjective experience.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
if I’m wrong list a task that a conscious being can do that an unconscious one is unable to accomplish.
These have been listed repeatedly: love, think, understand, contemplate, discover, aspire, lead, philosophize, etc.
There are, in fact, very few interesting things that a non-thinking entity can do. It can make toast. It can do calculations. It can design highways. It can cure cancer. It can probably fold clothes. None of this shit is particularly exciting. Just more machines doing what they’re told. We want a machine that can tell us what to do, instead. That’s AGI. No such machine can exist, at least according to our current understanding of mathematical logic, theoretical computer science, and human cognition.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
Feed it the entire internet and let it figure out what humans value
There are theorems in mathematical logic that tell us this is literally impossible. No mechanical process can generate a consistent set of axioms to summarize or even approximate human intuitions. Such a process would get things wrong and output contradictions.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
we’re talking about something where nobody can tell the difference, not where it’s difficult.
You’re missing the point. The existence of black holes was predicted long before anyone had any idea how to identify them. For many years, it was impossible. Does that mean black holes don’t matter? That we shouldn’t have contemplated their existence?
Seriously though, I’m out.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
Economics is descriptive, not prescriptive. The whole concept of “a job” is completely made up and arbitrary.
This has been fun, but I’m bored now.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
The definition is the exact opposite of arbitrary.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
Matter to whom?
We are discussing whether creating an AGI is possible, not whether humans can tell the difference (which is a separate discussion).
Most people can’t identify a correct mathematical equation from an incorrect one, especially when the solution is irrelevant to their lives. Does that mean that doing mathematics correctly “doesn’t matter?”
It would be weird to enter a mathematical forum and ask “why do you care? Why does it matter?”
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
The discussion is over whether we can create an AGI. An AGI is an inorganic mind of some sort (which would have various properties, such as the capacity for independent thought). We don’t need to make an AGI. I personally see no reason to do so. The question was can we? The answer is No.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
A malfunctioning nuke can also destroy humanity. Destroying humanity is not a defining feature of AGI. The question is not whether we can create a machine that can destroy humanity. (Yes.) The question is whether we can create a machine that can think. (No.)
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
This is such an odd response. Yes, we can create the illusion of thought by executing very complicated instructions. Who cares? That’s not what anyone is talking about. There’s a difference between a machine that does what it’s told and one that thinks for itself. The latter cannot be done at the moment, because we don’t know how. But sure, we can have cheap parlor tricks. Good enough to amuse the sub-100 IQ crowd at least.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
That’s fine, but most people aren’t interested in an illusion or a magic trick. When they say AGI, they mean an actual thinking mind capable of rationality (such as mind would be sensitive and responsive to reasons).
Calculators, LLMs, and toasters can’t think or understand or undertake rational (let alone moral) deliberation by definition. They can only do what they’re told. We don’t need more machines that do what they’re told. We want machines that can think and understand for themselves. Like human minds, but more powerful. That would require subjective understanding that cannot be programmed by definition. For more details, see Gödel’s incompleteness theorems. We can’t even axiomatize mathematics, let alone program human intuitions about the world at large. Even if it’s possible we simply don’t know how.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
Reasoning literally requires consciousness because it’s a fundamentally normative process. But hey, I get it. This is your first time encountering this fascinating topic and you’re a little confused. It’s okay.
- Comment on Material scientist wet dream 3 weeks ago:
It is hilarious to be wrong, yes.
- Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai? 3 weeks ago:
The only way to create AGI is by accident. I can’t stress how much we haven’t the first clue how consciousness works. I don’t mean we are far, I mean we are roughly at the starting point, with a variety of vague abstract theories with no connection to empirical reality. We can’t even agree on whether insects have emotions (they don’t — unless you think they do, in which case fight me) let alone explain subjective experience.
- Comment on I'm so vegan I could eat a burger and still be a vegan 2 months ago:
How dare some people make an obviously correct moral decision that highlights my own inadequacies?
Seriously though, I’m not even slightly vegan. I’m just also not a total fucking moron.
- Comment on I'm so vegan I could eat a burger and still be a vegan 2 months ago:
We should do one for regular diets where it goes from ignorantly contributing to animal suffering to torturing them yourself and then diabetes and colon cancer.
- Comment on cherry pickers 3 months ago:
I thought it was because they were all dying and fertilizing the soil with their corpses.
- Comment on Make your complaints heard about bad games, says Dragon Age veteran Mark Darrah, but "your $70 doesn't buy you cruelty" 3 months ago:
The art direction and the combat mechanics. But I can’t be sure.