Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai?
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 3 days agoEconomics is descriptive, not prescriptive. The whole concept of “a job” is completely made up and arbitrary.
This has been fun, but I’m bored now.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 days ago
A job is a task one human wants another to accomplish, it is not arbitrary at all.
i don’t see why they do, a philosophical zombie could do it, why not an unconscious AI? alphaevolve is already making new science, I see no reason an unconscious being with the abilty to manipulate the world and verify couldn’t do these things.
yes but you can give it large, vague goals like “empower humanity, do what we say and minimize harm.” And it will still do them. So what does it matter?
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 3 days ago
What the hell does “empower humanity” mean? When you tell it to reduce harm, how do you know it won’t undertake a course of eugenics? How do you know it won’t see fit that people like you, by virtue of your stupidity, are culled or sterilized?
Why do you expect an unthinking, non-deliberative zombie process to know what you mean by “empower humanity”? There are facts about what is GOOD and what is BAD that can only be grasped through subjective experience.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 days ago
these cannot be grasped by subjective experience, and I would say nothing can possibly achieve this, not any human at all, the best we can do is poll humanity and go by approximates, which I believe is best handled by something automatic. humans can’t answer these questions in the first place, why should I trust something without subjective experience to do it any worse?
because this is unpopular, there are many things online saying not to… do you think humans are immune to this? When has consciousness ever prevented such an outcome?
we don’t, but we also don’t with conscious beings, so there’s still no stated advantage to consciousness.
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 3 days ago
Oh my god. So the machine won’t do terrible immoral things because they are unpopular on the internet. Well ladies and gentlemen, I rest my case.