Here’s an example of the Dolby logo from another GameCube game that offered surround.
DefiantBidet@lemmy.world 2 years ago
User experience over marketing.
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 years ago
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
Is that the whole thing? I thought it would be a long screen with JUST Dolby. That’s like two seconds and has other credits on it. I don’t understand folks’ rage over that.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 years ago
GREAT game
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Honestly, 5.1 surround sound is worth waiting the extra like 2 seconds of the logo. The fact that the game only has mono or stereo sound output just because he didn’t want to have a logo on the screen for a few seconds is not putting user experience over marketing.
It would honestly make more sense that Nintendo told him he couldn’t add it because they didn’t want to pay for it and this is how he justified it to himself.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Most households have a TV with TV speakers, only capable of L/R. Why pay money and have people sit through a corporate short film for a feature most won’t use?
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Its two seconds for the benefit of 5.1, so the people.that have it can benefit.
missingno@kbin.social 2 years ago
Bear in mind that Kirby Air Ride came out in 2003, on a console that's only meant to be hooked up to CRTs. How many users back then do you think would've had access to this feature in the first place? Or would still be playing this game if/when they upgrade later?
theareciboincident@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 years ago
The problem people have with your argument is not the existence of 5.1 surround sound.
Nor is it that the vast majority of households can’t afford a properly tuned surround sound setup instead of haphazardly throwing speakers around which arguably creates a worse experience than stereo.
It’s that the Dolby implementation requires publishers to license it and pay for an unstoppable ad that plays before every session, while benefitting only the petit bourgeois.
Notice how you reverted so quickly to your capitalist brainwashing. May be a good inspiration to see what other ideologies have been implanted into you.
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 2 years ago
So many assumptions here.
Let me refute them through educated guesses.
Emerald@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Who games on a 5.1 surround setup?
utopiah@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Except the 2 are not causally related. One can have 5.1 without the logo or, even worst, the waiting time.
Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 2 years ago
Yepp. Surround sound is not tied to Dolby.
hark@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. This is a significant enough feature that a couple seconds is really not a big deal. There are likely time-wasters just as long, if not longer, elsewhere in the game and they do not contribute a much richer audio experience. While I’d love to minimize time wasting as much as possible, this is something that appears once on boot-up while I’m sure there are other time-wasters that appear multiple times while you’re playing the game. If they’re even a fraction of a second, they will quickly add up more than this logo’s time.
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 years ago
Two issues though. Sakurai was taking about how he likes the ability to jump from game to game at an arcade and jump straight into the game. But a lot of console games had you go through intros, menus, tutorials, etc. And he didn’t like that, hence why he was saying he’d rather not have an extra logo screen to click through
The second issue was that the game in question was a GameCube game. It only outputs in stereo. Surround sound wasnt a common thing in games at the time. It would have been the old school Dolby Surround/Pro Logic II encoding. Most gaming setups didn’t have surround sound receivers or sound bars yet. Also, it’s a Kirby game. The target audience wouldn’t have cared
hark@lemmy.world 2 years ago
The arcade experience is fundamentally different from the console experience. Arcade games are generally crafted to eat quarters and kick players off as soon as possible without making them feel ripped off. Jumping in and out of games is common at arcades. While it’s nice to save that couple of seconds on a console game, it’s not something that adds up a lot unless you’re jumping between games a few minutes at a time, which again, is more like an arcade and doesn’t make as much sense in a console gaming context because you generally have a better idea of what games you own and want to play.
As for the second issue, if it was a feature that wasn’t worthwhile and that nobody cared about, then why was he considering it in the first place? There are many technical details in games that exist that casual players don’t pay attention to, but subconsciously would enjoy. Surround sound adds quite a bit to a racing game, considering that the entire game is about racing against other characters that are positioned all around you.
dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 2 years ago
The perception of delay is a lot larger for a single initial delay than a lot of smaller delays within the game. It’s very noticable if a game takes 20 seconds to get past the intro screens, while it is barely noticeable if a quarter of a second of delay is added to the loading between each level, even if it adds up to a lot more than the initial loading screen.
Considering that the use of 5.1 surround would be a very rare case for the target aidience, I find the choice of dropping it to be excellent to enhance the experience.
hark@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Perception plays a huge role, that’s true, but I guess we’re just going to have to agree to disagree since it’s ultimately subjective.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Because Lemmy hates everything that isn’t FOSS. The more time I spend here, the more I see that it is no better than Reddit.
englislanguage@lemmy.sdf.org 2 years ago
Nope. It’s just an unnecessary label which provides no additional features, i.e. no benefits. You can have Dolby sound without the Dolby label.
essteeyou@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Don’t like it? Write your own equivalent and selfhost it using my favorite distro. /s
dditty@lemm.ee 2 years ago
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 2 years ago
If it was money thing, couldn’t he just say “I needed as much coin as I could scrape up to get Sora from Disney” like he basically said with the last wave of DLC characters?
Maybe it’s my nostalgia glasses, but this is something I actually believe coming from Sakurai. The man almost hates useless ads as much as Lemmy users.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 years ago
Nah, not for me anyway