Comment on Anon helps with his gf's vaping addiction

PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  implying anyone on 4chan gives a shit about consent

  this made me really uncomfortable too, also its extremely fake, you can’t ‘take apart’ a vape juice bottle (theyre a single piece of plastic), and no one on 4chan has a girlfriend (lol)

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  • towerful@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You can take apart juice bottles.
    The least realistic part is that anon managed to get to and dilute every bottle their gf used.
    Cause if they miss one, their gf is gonna have a serious shock.

    So, lack of consent and extremely controlling?

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Or, as everything else, is fake and gay

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    • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s a very good point. The fictitious gf is the one buying the bottles. So if they are used to 1% nicotine and pick up a regular strength one, they’re going to use it, and immediately notice the difference…

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  • H4mi@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I take apart mine every time I buy one. To add nicotine. Maybe there are different kinds of bottles? I’ve never seen one where the top is not detachable.

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Juice maker here: the tops are all detachable.

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    • uis@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’ve never seen one where the top is not detachable.

      Nice one.

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  • cosmicrookie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Maybe the ones you use can’t be taken apart but dont assume the whole world aligns to your image of it

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  • Makhno@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    also its extremely fake, you can’t ‘take apart’ a vape juice bottle (theyre a single piece of plastic),

    What sketchy cheap shit are you using? I’ve used a vape for a decade now, and you can remove the nipple cape on every single bottle.

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  • uis@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    you can’t ‘take apart’ a vape juice bottle (theyre a single piece of plastic)

    We don’t know anything about that particular bottle OP used.

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Totally wrong. Most juice comes in squeeze plastic bottles with a little nipple for filling a refillable vape.

      When I was lowering my dose I bought 120ml of my favorite flavors and diluted it down with PG and VG off the shelf.

      Traditionally it’s really just PG (propylene glycol), VG (vegetable glycerin), flavor agents, and nicotine/nicotine salts. Nicotine itself you can buy in gallon form, suspended in PG or VG, at a dilution of 100mg/ml. Unsure on nicotine salts. But just reducing it with PG, VG, or both, is no less safe than the vape itself.

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      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I’m a juice maker, and your comment is the truest comment here!

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  • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I make juice and you can absolutely pop the top off’a the bottle pictured here!

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  • Empricorn@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Body pillows can be girlfriends!

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• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Instructions unclear. Afraid to cook for gf now.

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• empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  yeah using some random “cutting solution” is how you end up with Honey Cut 2.0

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  • turtlepower@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You don’t use a random cutting solution, you use the same juice with no nicotine. A lot of juice makers offer 0 nic versions for people that want to just enjoy the act and flavor of vaping without the addiction, and for this specific purpose of cutting the nic level because they only offer certain increments (usually 3%, 6%, 12%), which may be too high for one’s personal preference.

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  • gila@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Just as a thought experiment, what you’d really wanna do is change the salt nic formulation, i.e. the acidic compound which is added to freebase nicotine to convert it to a salt. This directly shapes the pharmacokinetics of the resulting nicotinic effect from vaping it, which is what leads to the common knowledge that salt nic hits harder, but doesn’t last as long as freebase. That isn’t universally true at all, but is a result of the salt formulations that are popular in the market.

    I worked with a scientist that once formulated a 20mg/mL solution for me that had similar throat hit to the 40mg/mL products I was using & had a very steep onset curve, and I found it to still be very satisfying even immediately after swapping. It wasn’t a successful product though because for the consumer, 20mg = 20mg & 40mg = 40mg

    Guess my point is that the novel ways of using tech to improve weaning off nicotine using vaping do legitimately exist, but they don’t have a place in a free market so we won’t have it while regulators stay luddites on the issue

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    • savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s when you take a page out of the book of lightbulb manufacturers. On the box, CFLs and LEDs don’t show their actual wattage on the front, they write “100w equivalent” because that’s how people are used to measuring luminosity.

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      • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I find it changing as of lately, as “W equivalent”, lumens, and actual Watts get printed on the bulbs’ package more often, sometimes even pulsation score or something. This really helps because actual Watts and lumens are quite independent now

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  • sukhmel@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    For those like me who have never heard of (E)VAPI or Honey Cut and want to read a disturbing story of how illicit products may be made of pretty much anything, there’s a read from Leafly

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• drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Mixing vape juice is standard practice though. You can buy nicottine free vape juice everywhere. If you splti 50mg with nic free at 50:50 you have… 25mg! It’s extremely common FYI

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• barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Would you be saying the same thing if it was about diluting vodka with water?

  …because that’s what mixing vape juice with juice base is.

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  • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yes I would, tampering is dangerous shit even when you think you’re being benign about it.

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If I was making a cocktail for a friend, and, eyeballing the ratios, ended up with putting too little vodka in it, would that still be tampering?

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      • PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        If you can’t tell the difference between messing up a cocktail mix and intentionally tampering with a drink or drug formula I don’t know what to tell ya man.

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      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Your friend knew you were mixing it though

        If you were to go around a party pouring water in everybody’s drinks when they aren’t looking, I would consider that tampering, yes.

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