Instructions unclear. Afraid to cook for gf now.
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PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Good intentions, implementation, and results here, but seriously folks, think VERY carefully about what you’re doing when you tamper with something someone’s putting in their body.
Do not try at home to the nth degree.
Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 months ago
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
yeah using some random “cutting solution” is how you end up with Honey Cut 2.0
turtlepower@lemm.ee 5 months ago
You don’t use a random cutting solution, you use the same juice with no nicotine. A lot of juice makers offer 0 nic versions for people that want to just enjoy the act and flavor of vaping without the addiction, and for this specific purpose of cutting the nic level because they only offer certain increments (usually 3%, 6%, 12%), which may be too high for one’s personal preference.
gila@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Just as a thought experiment, what you’d really wanna do is change the salt nic formulation, i.e. the acidic compound which is added to freebase nicotine to convert it to a salt. This directly shapes the pharmacokinetics of the resulting nicotinic effect from vaping it, which is what leads to the common knowledge that salt nic hits harder, but doesn’t last as long as freebase. That isn’t universally true at all, but is a result of the salt formulations that are popular in the market.
I worked with a scientist that once formulated a 20mg/mL solution for me that had similar throat hit to the 40mg/mL products I was using & had a very steep onset curve, and I found it to still be very satisfying even immediately after swapping. It wasn’t a successful product though because for the consumer, 20mg = 20mg & 40mg = 40mg
Guess my point is that the novel ways of using tech to improve weaning off nicotine using vaping do legitimately exist, but they don’t have a place in a free market so we won’t have it while regulators stay luddites on the issue
savedbythezsh@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
That’s when you take a page out of the book of lightbulb manufacturers. On the box, CFLs and LEDs don’t show their actual wattage on the front, they write “100w equivalent” because that’s how people are used to measuring luminosity.
sukhmel@programming.dev 5 months ago
I find it changing as of lately, as “W equivalent”, lumens, and actual Watts get printed on the bulbs’ package more often, sometimes even pulsation score or something. This really helps because actual Watts and lumens are quite independent now
sukhmel@programming.dev 5 months ago
For those like me who have never heard of (E)VAPI or Honey Cut and want to read a disturbing story of how illicit products may be made of pretty much anything, there’s a read from Leafly
drmoose@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Mixing vape juice is standard practice though. You can buy nicottine free vape juice everywhere. If you splti 50mg with nic free at 50:50 you have… 25mg! It’s extremely common FYI
Taalnazi@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Nicotin is already tampering itself… least one could do is remove it.
barsoap@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Would you be saying the same thing if it was about diluting vodka with water?
…because that’s what mixing vape juice with juice base is.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Yes I would, tampering is dangerous shit even when you think you’re being benign about it.
barsoap@lemm.ee 5 months ago
If I was making a cocktail for a friend, and, eyeballing the ratios, ended up with putting too little vodka in it, would that still be tampering?
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 5 months ago
If you can’t tell the difference between messing up a cocktail mix and intentionally tampering with a drink or drug formula I don’t know what to tell ya man.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Your friend knew you were mixing it though
If you were to go around a party pouring water in everybody’s drinks when they aren’t looking, I would consider that tampering, yes.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
this made me really uncomfortable too, also its extremely fake, you can’t ‘take apart’ a vape juice bottle (theyre a single piece of plastic), and no one on 4chan has a girlfriend (lol)
towerful@programming.dev 5 months ago
You can take apart juice bottles.
The least realistic part is that anon managed to get to and dilute every bottle their gf used.
Cause if they miss one, their gf is gonna have a serious shock.
So, lack of consent and extremely controlling?
Evotech@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Or, as everything else, is fake and gay
Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 months ago
That’s a very good point. The fictitious gf is the one buying the bottles. So if they are used to 1% nicotine and pick up a regular strength one, they’re going to use it, and immediately notice the difference…
H4mi@lemm.ee 5 months ago
I take apart mine every time I buy one. To add nicotine. Maybe there are different kinds of bottles? I’ve never seen one where the top is not detachable.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
Juice maker here: the tops are all detachable.
uis@lemm.ee 5 months ago
Nice one.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Maybe the ones you use can’t be taken apart but dont assume the whole world aligns to your image of it
Makhno@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What sketchy cheap shit are you using? I’ve used a vape for a decade now, and you can remove the nipple cape on every single bottle.
uis@lemm.ee 5 months ago
We don’t know anything about that particular bottle OP used.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Totally wrong. Most juice comes in squeeze plastic bottles with a little nipple for filling a refillable vape.
When I was lowering my dose I bought 120ml of my favorite flavors and diluted it down with PG and VG off the shelf.
Traditionally it’s really just PG (propylene glycol), VG (vegetable glycerin), flavor agents, and nicotine/nicotine salts. Nicotine itself you can buy in gallon form, suspended in PG or VG, at a dilution of 100mg/ml. Unsure on nicotine salts. But just reducing it with PG, VG, or both, is no less safe than the vape itself.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I’m a juice maker, and your comment is the truest comment here!
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I make juice and you can absolutely pop the top off’a the bottle pictured here!
Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Body pillows can be girlfriends!