Why exactly are we giving Nazis the power to poison language, emojis, what have you for the rest of us again?
I think we should do the opposite. As soon as some symbol becomes a dog whistle, we should all rush to use it for it's original meaning as much as possible, thus preventing the dog from hearing the whistle where it's supposed to be used as such.
Well the purpose of the hate list like this isn’t “what symbols not to use” so much has, if a guy uses this and there’s context to suggest it’s a dogwhistle, this is what it means.
As a concrete example, If someone turns to a camera makes the ok gesture then punches a black guy that can be used as evidence to add a hate crime charge onto the assault charge.
Exactly this. Gasden Flag, same vibes, same weird arguments from people trying to take it back. Go ahead and try, I wish you well, but you’re gonna look like a racist flying it.
Because when someone uses a symbol while they do something shitty, they are associating that symbol with their shitty behaviors. Human brains are wired to identify paterns and associations for threat identification. That’s why cops all dress differently than EMT’s.
If your ex-girlfriend left you in a nasty break up, you might avoid her favorite restaurant, cry when you hear her favorite songs, or even get upset just seeing a similar car to the one she drove. You cant drown out a dog whistel, all you can do is point it out.
Right but if Nazis just started using the LGBTQ+ flag, that wouldn’t be recognized.
They tried that in Reddit back in 2019, and it failed. Frenworld tried taking rainbow flags to mean “A seperate place for every race” ahortly before they got banned.
It was a hypothetical. Pick anything you want.
And anyways you proved my point, the “society” pushed back, ad discarded it, rather than allow it to be poisoned.
Tbf the fact that it failed kinda proves his point, and the fact that the ok symbol is “now a nazi dogwhistle” (or, like, that whole “swastika” thing. disproves your second point.)
Why exactly are we giving Nazis the power to poison language, emojis, what have you for the rest of us again?
Probably the same reason that the swastika is a hate symbol instead of a Hindu symbol.
I recently found out how they appropriated the hooked cross symbol. Now I’m streaming angry. I just finished sewing one onto the back of my Jean jacket, too.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
By that point, it’s already been tainted and it’s too hard to tell reality from satire from ignorance.
Nazis just love appropriating and poisoning symbols, and it all started with the swastika: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
In any normal circles, nazis are so irrelevant that you dont need to worry about ok signs or whatnot
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 months ago
First day on the Internet?
ninpnin@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
No. This was in the context of the original comment. If somebody has no idea what’s wrong with the ok sign, they probably don’t need to worry about it. This is all terminally online insanity.