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DrCester@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  And something y’all need to realise that 90% of vegans don’t think like that.

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  • dingus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Read OP’s comments. OP does think like that which is exactly the problem.

    I come here for the memes, not to be berated for being an “animal abuser”. Memes are supposed to be lighthearted.

    I have no problem with vegans. I have problems with militant vegans like OP. Just like I have a problem with anyone trying to radically shove their beliefs down my throat, no matter what topic it might involve.

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    • Kacarott@feddit.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      While I agree, I am also not sure why vegans are being singled out for this, since I see memes and post shoving leftist politics down people’s throats constantly, and not just in political channels.

      It seems that for most people, the throat shoving is only a problem when they disagree with the content, and there are a lot less vegans on Lemmy than leftists.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    90% of the vegans I encounter are the preachy ones making posts online. The vegans that aren’t like that don’t usually shout about being vegan.

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    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I prefer “bloodmouth”

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    • orphiebaby@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Some animals are carnivores, but they don’t want to draw attention to that. Also, humans aren’t carnivores. We’re omnivores.

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  • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The ones that do are really fucking loud and make the rest of you look bad. I’m in the same boat, being an atheist.

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  • TheDoozer@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I imagine that 90% aren’t getting their memes deleted.

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  • DrCester@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh, trust me, I know

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• Nevoic@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ve never understood why vegans, the ones the vast majority agree are doing something at least good (even if you don’t understand it’s a moral obligation), are the ones that have to cater to the genocidal masses.

  Stop and think for a second, imagine you live in a wild, wild world where the vegan position is actually correct. Imagine that you’re a vegan, and those around you are actually supporting an unjustified animal holocaust. Then think about how your critique of vegans comes off. It’s the genocidal maniacs complaining about how they’re treated unfairly on the internet because sometimes someone attacks their delicate sensibilities.

  It’s not my responsibility to engage with you in such a way that makes you a better person. Your own failings are your own, and my failings are my own. My failings are I sometimes make someone on the internet a bit sad, and yours are demanding tens of billions of animal deaths every year, a quantitative level of suffering we’ve never seen before.

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  • tim-clark@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Weak argument while standing on your subjective high ground, morality is a compass. Forcing people to follow your values is in most peoples view is immoral. Veganism is cult trying to shame people and scream at them for being wrong. No different than a religion trying to force their morals on you. Also trying to force people to a specific diet is wrong, that is not taking into account individuals health.

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    • Nevoic@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t force anyone to follow anything, but the state does and you view that as a good thing. It should be illegal to abuse and kill dogs & cats, we can agree on that obvious truth. Your inability to see how that translates to pigs/cows/chickens is just irrationality/stupidity, nothing else.

      I’ve had a ton of conversations on the nature of normative truths, rehashing it over and over again with pseudo-expressivists online is annoying, mostly because you all have actually no background in philosophy, so it’s like talking to a bunch of philosophy 101 students who have never given this more than a cursory thought.

      You should look into the basis of knowledge, study a bit of epistemology. You’ll find the foundations for all truths, normative or descriptive, are quite similar. They’re all fundamentally based in axioms.

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      • tim-clark@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Gibberish, complete incoherent gibberish. Still trying to force your morality on others by belittling them. Udder nonsense from an extremist.

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      • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I didn’t force anyone to follow anything, but the state does and you view that as a good thing.

        What state is forcing a diet on you?

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    • Salzkrebs@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s more about ethics than morality. You agree that violence is a bad thing? Good. So there is no reason these rules don’t apply to animals, since many of them can feel in a similar way humans do.

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  • dingus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just stop and think for a second. We’re talking about posting in meme communities. Meme communities are for lighthearted jokes, not radical and serious discussions.

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    • Nevoic@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Dark humor is a real thing, and it’s fine and even cathartic for a lot of people. Joking about fascists, genocide-enablers, etc. is something some people find in poor taste, while others find it cathartic. Neither is wrong.

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  • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because acting like a self righteous douchebag turns people off and hurts your movement. That’s counterproductive.

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    • Nevoic@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s more counterproductive to be a non-vegan and try to convince nobody. I’ve had a good deal of success convincing people to go vegan. There are definitely vegans that are more successful than me, but you want to know who is always less successful? Non-vegans who rage online about vegans.

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• tomi000@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Isnt that what literally happens everywhere all the time in different context? ‘arabs beat their wives they are evil’, ‘indigenous people take halucinogenic drugs they are evil’, ‘russians kill and rape civilians they are evil’. Usually it is the strong that force their beliefs on the minorities, fortunately you cant force people to eat meat by law.

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