I think the devs have a pretty healthy attitude, really. Sure, they take their sweet time, but I prefer that over half-assed rush jobs and selling out. The last updates were also absolutely great and the game gets better and better. It’s in early access since forever, but it is more balanced, polished and refined than 90% of fully released games out there. And it doesn’t feel hollow after twenty hours either. It will keep fucking you up, even after hundreds of hours. It’s an absolute gem and I don’t really care if it takes them three more years to finish it…
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bassomitron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I figured the game was abandoned, to be honest. Their updates have been unreasonably slow and what little they did release was insultingly barebones. With how much money they made during their unexpected COVID success, you’d think your first order of business would be hiring a top notch PM and experienced devs to keep your development on track.
Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world 6 months ago
bassomitron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If you consider taking 4+ years for 1 biome expansion and a few other smaller content updates to be a reasonable development cadence, you are definitely welcome to have that opinion.
Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world 6 months ago
To me that’s reasonable if it means the devs get to have a life and get to make something they really love. And it’s definitely reasonable given the fact that I paid fifteen euro’s for hundreds of hours of fun. They definitely do not owe me more, quite the opposite, really.
alilbee@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Okay but I don’t think you can just assert that this is a binary without much more information. Would hiring more devs and a PM with the gobs of money they made cause any additional crunch? Obviously at extreme ends, it would, but I don’t think anyone is suggesting that. For what it’s worth, I like Valheim too, but they absolutely did not end up maintaining the huge amount of hype they had. That may have been intentional, but it cost them.
Aquila@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
It’s been less then two years since major patch. Mistlands was released Nov ‘22
code@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I love valheim but there are things that keep me from putting serious time into it that i just cant figure out. Its probably a bunch of little nitpicky things. Mods help for sure with that. Saying that i have about 70 hours in enshrouded and am about 2/3 “complete”. And am loving every minute. Its gets out of its own way and pretty much lets you do what you want. Im an old fart gamer and prefer a slower casual pace in this genre. Enshrouded ticks that for me
Vrijgezelopkamers@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s a matter of taste. I got bored of Enshrouded after 20 hours (which is decent, and worth its money), but Valheim is easily one of my all time favourites. I find it a lot more rewarding.
I played solo deep into mistlands and now I’m rediscovering it together with a friend.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I love Enshrouded but I do love Valheim more.
code@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I still have hope with valheim. My son just got it so im sure itll be more fun with him. I dont hate it at all.
Carighan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
and what little they did release was insultingly barebones
I mean OTOH for those who bought it, the content there at the time was worth the money asked. Sure it was somewhat barebones but the game is also cheap-ish and if you get a bunch of cool hours out of it with friends, well worth.
Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah enshrouded rocks. If you like valheim you’ll love enshrouded.
amzd@kbin.social 6 months ago
I tried enshrouded beta and performance issues didn’t allow me to leave the starting area into the shroud so was basically softlocked
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[deleted]bassomitron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
What? It’s literally an Early Access game, of course we expect them to add more to the game when the devs themselves have said numerous times that the game is incomplete. I’m done responding to replies though, as it appears some folks are beginning to take personal offense and insulting me for criticizing a god damn videogame.
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 6 months ago
In an age where everyone rags on live service games that will inevitably lose support, a cheap, fun, well made, feature complete game that gets infrequent updates is “abandoned” and “insultingly barebones”. Classic 2024 gamer moment right there
bassomitron@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s not feature complete, though? The store page literally says Early Access, and within that description the devs explain what is missing and their rough estimate for how much time is left before version 1.0…
But, classic 2024 gamer moment, sure.
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sorry, should say I mean feature complete in a relative sense. Ie, some EA games wre essentially tech demos, and you’re funding a theoretical game when you buy. If those games stopped getting updates, you’re left with a mostly empty unreal engine project, nit a full video game.
Valheim was a full video game on day one. A buddy and I played many hours when it first came out and thoroughly enjoyed it. If no updates came out, I might have felt like there was some unmet potential, but I certainly wouldn’t have been insulted. Bottom line, take away the roadmap, I still see a great game with enough going for it to stand on its own.
brenticus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It sounds like the game’s getting Ashlands plus one more biome, but not much for new features. So depending on your definition of feature complete it’s at least pretty close anyways. From this point on it’s theoretically more of the same.
I’m pretty much on the same page as you, although I started playing a couple months ago with a couple friends. The game is obviously not abandoned, and it’s a pretty full game even with more to come. We finally built a hot tub on the weekend and I don’t know how I’m supposed to expect more from this game than chilling in a tub with your naked viking bros.
lorty@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
For the price, what was there was fine, but it was sold as early access and the later areas were basically empty.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 months ago
This is literally the second major update since Mistlands. To call the updates merely infrequent is an understatement.