Latino*
FTFY. Please don’t massacre our language.
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PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I think we’re beginning to see Mexico flex it’s cultural muscles out of the latinesphere.
Not videogames, but latine culture inspired shows like Villainos, El Tigre, and my personal nostalgia bait MUCHA LUCHA!!!, definitely foretell Mexico entering the same space of cultural influence in the west as places like Japan with Anime and JRPGs
Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Audrey0nne@leminal.space 8 months ago
Estas son las nuevas palabras incorporadas al diccionario por la RAE
If you think latine is an affront to Spanish check out these words accepted into the Spanish dictionary just this year.
You’re not fixing anything you’re just keeping things shitty.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
its not yours to decide, fuck off.
Audrey0nne@leminal.space 8 months ago
I don’t feign to have the power, only illuminating how weak the arguments against this change are.
DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 months ago
What makes you think it isn’t? It’s not English speakers that care about Spanish conjugation.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
its not yours to decide
It IS for the fucking RAE to decide though, they’re the Royal Acadamy of Spanish.
Sos tan boludo que nisiquiera puedes entender que hasta el RAE te odio, tenes problemas. Puedes leer ,o escribiste tu mensaje por voz a texto?
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
It ain’t just your language, and if a single letter change is “massacring” your language, you’re part of the exact reason why queer latine folks innovated the e and also that x y’all had a supernova tier meltdown over.
Inclusivity ain’t just gringo shit Moghafil.
Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Unabashedly be a destructive culture culture speedrun any%
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
If your culture cannot survive intermixing with new ideas, it deserves to face the vultures.
Nobody deserves the indignity of being linguistically unpersoned just because recognizing them is apparently white people shit to your parent culture.
Colonialism isn’t when being a marginalized culture isn’t an excuse to also be bigots because someone in their own personal use of a language decides to be inclusive.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
do you even speak the language?
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 8 months ago
Latine looks like a word, Latinx sounds like perfume or cologne
umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
thats not how our language works
latino*
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
way to mark yourself as a conservative jackass. Do you like licking yankee boots?
RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Who the fuck are you, pendejo?
Tachikoma741@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Lungas combia con teimpo. No te vives en la pasada. Si queires a vivir in en la pasada apredenate Azteca.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Joe
daltotron@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You know uhh, no comment on the shit flinging in the comments, but I’ve always liked latine over latinx, feels more natural to use a vowel there than like, an x. Shout out to latiny as being the highly underrated evolution, which unifies both the use of a vowel and something adjacent to the x, while also sounding really dumb and funny.
I dunno. Seems similar to the outcries and moral panic that people used to have against neopronouns, or pronouns in bio, to me, without realizing that they use neopronouns all the time whenever they call someone dude or bro. I feel like I’ve left this comment here before, but I do wonder whether or not neopronouns like dude or bro are more acceptable because they’re kind of a more natural integration into language than most of the academic postulations on “oh, what if we made a gender-neutral singular pronoun”, or if they’re more acceptable precisely because they’re kind of gendered. We’re all dudes, hey, but at the same time, it would be kind of stupid to say that dude doesn’t refer to or see use by mostly men, and is kind of gendered. I dunno, I’m sure “dude” and “bro” were pretty heavily hated when they were used, so maybe it’s just that whenever anything novel with language is done, it’s doomed to be shat on relentlessly by prescriptivist nonces.
I dunno maybe we all just need to speak like, ithkuli or something, so nobody ever talks to each other.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Oh god imagine putting the world through learning to be fluent in ithkuil XD
Maximum expressiveness, maximum migraines
I’d be thankful just to get a spelling reform but English has somehow descriptivized its way into having worse spelling than prescribed written languages.
Darthjaffacake@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not a language I thought would be referenced in this topic but damn I’ll take it. Maximum migraines indeed.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Eh, personally I find the letters too similar to one another, it’s like anti-shavian, where that was designed for every glyph to be distinct and to be a single stroke, ithkuil is complex and has a lot of glyphs that are hard to distinguish at a glance.
My ideal would be for a writing system where words are built from Hangul-like syllable blocks, every consonant is a single stroke glyph without any closed loops, and every vowel has to have at least one closed loop. I’ve also gotten really interested in the look of vertical writing systems so dat too :p
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Is “latine” the new latinx after that got overwhelmingly rejected by actually latino people? If so that seems very presumptuous to try, again, to push something onto a foreign language the speakers do not want.
It also reads very unfortunate, I did a triple take because I kept processing it as latrine.
Texas_Hangover@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Its hilarious, if you called a Mexican a fucking “latine” they’d look at you like you were a pinche mamon lmao.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Native speaker here and I totally agree. Every other word is gendered. What, am I gonna call a washing machine lavadore or car carrx? This definitely feels like North Americans trying to colonize our language.
Tachikoma741@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Should we get rid of the word “refriador” then? How about “computadora”? Word borrowed from one of Mexico’s conquerors?
Lengas combia con tiempo. Si no quiers combira, aprendate Azteca or Maya. Los “verda” lenguas de Mexico y la Yucatan.
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Makes me think of latrine
Kiosade@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Well it’s actually Latiné, so not pronounced “la-teen”
jnk@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
You’re clearly speaking french. Latiné lmao
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Both of them were created by the queer community in Latin America but sure “pushing something onto a foreign language the speakers don’t want”
Acting like queer recognition is just white people shit is about as racist as you’re trying to make using a different word sound so how about we settle the fuck down about presumptuousness.
jnk@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Typical white-american sjw behavior: using the queer community as an immunity card to say whatever you want and call transphobes to anyone who disagrees.
The queer community is a minority of latino america, they don’t have the final say over the rest of the people just because, non-queer people also deserve proportional recognition you know. And even if they did, that “latine/latinx” bs was made up by a minority of the queer community in an attempt to simulate the (grammatical) gender-neutral language seen in English and inexistent in Spanish.
So yeah, keep acting like forcing (again, grammatical) gender-neutral expressions over spanish-speaking cultures is not fucking racist. I’m gonna keep using the appropriate gender when speaking/using spanish words.
Audrey0nne@leminal.space 8 months ago
‘Latinx’, un término que busca ser inclusivo entre los latinos
The conversation about latine replacing latinx is not new and not solely about the inclusion of queer communities but the fight for equality for feminist causes as well. You do whatever you want when speaking my language but as a native speaker I can tell you I want my words to have inclusivity.
PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Nobody’s forcing shit, you’re just too machismo to accept when someone tries to be nice in your language too
Singular they and neo-pronoun panic doesn’t suddenly become woke because you’re doing it in Spanish Moghafil.
HottieAutie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I think Latin@ would be a better fit since it has both a and o in it. Who do a write to make this proposal official? Where is Latin@america central command?
Texas_Hangover@lemm.ee 8 months ago
How you gonna pronounce that? Latinat?
HottieAutie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
(a + o)/2 = ė
TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Latinao?