I dunno. I haven’t seen the 4k Alien yet but the grainy film I think deff added to the overall feel to it. It made it feel dirtier and more lived in. But I’ll watch the 4k version. As far as people getting upset, I think it’s a mix of “how dare you change the thing I like” and “leave well enough alone, just give us more new content”.
BossDj@lemm.ee 7 months ago
If people actually are upset by the restorations, is it because it’s getting rid of the nostalgic feel? Or is it genuinely making the movie “feel” different?
It’s not like they’re adding a new cantina song
ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 7 months ago
superfes@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s stupid though, they haven’t changed the thing people like, it’s still there…
ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yeah, but you’ve met people though, right?
Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
The problem is that physical media is taking a back seat to streaming, and companies like Disney may only offer the newer version.
So the thing you like may be replaced with something you don’t like the look of, and if you hadn’t procured a copy before, tough shit.
That’s really more of an admonition of streaming than AI upscaling, though
superfes@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I hope physical media becomes popular again as people realize they don’t want to be fed what they want…
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Also the whole Star Wars Special Edition debacle (which has never been resolved) has everyone really nervous about these kinds of things.
Iamsqueegee@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Like it or not, it does change the original image, but not necessarily the intended image. I don’t think it’s in the same league as film colorization or adding a musical number to Jabba’s palace, but it may be necessary to smooth what was intended. If you’ve ever seen the videos of painting restorations, I’m inclined to think it’s something like that. Removing that aged, discolored layer to get to what’s beneath, or, as intended. I haven’t seen the new Aliens or The Abyss yet, so I can’t give an opinion on those. I watched The Last Action Hero and it seemed there were some “ironed out” scenes, but not jarring the way bad blue screening could be, like in The Last Crusade. That’s the kind of stuff I’d like to see get fixed. In fact, it’s unfortunate that oldies like Toy Story can’t be given an updated treatment. New textures, shading, etc. Rewatching old Pixar is not enjoyable. I’d like to see Pixar remasters. You’d think that would be easy to do since its mostly ones and zeroes.
Pulptastic@midwest.social 7 months ago
It’s like vinyl where the flaws are part of the experience. The original format is objectively worse but nostalgically better.
stoly@lemmy.world 7 months ago
You can’t really compare film and 4k digital video, they are very different things.
UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk 7 months ago
Check out the examples in the 4K section of the Blu-ray forums. True Lies is the worst, followed by Aliens and The Abyss comes off the best.
The image has been upscaled and with the use of AI, the image has been scrubbed of all the grain.
Unfortunately, the image now looks pretty bad in places with smooth waxy faces and strange anomalies as AI tries to improve the picture.
I would’ve thought they would scan the original camera negatives, or next best thing, and then apply a little DNR to remove a little of the grain but apparently, this is what Cameron wanted.
stoly@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I’d be ok with the 4k if they left the grain in. This is sort of like hos CBS replaced all the special effects on the original Star Trek series. It’s just not good.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I liked the new effects on TOS. A lot of the original ones looked terrible and they did generally keep the style so phasers beams and such don’t look out of place.
Alien’s film grain is part of the movie’s look, though. It contributes to the atmosphere.
ziby0405@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Wait… they used existing FHD/2K scans and upscaled those? And it still took this long for these to be released?
Thank fucking god fan preservation efforts happen with 16 and 35mm film reel scans.