I remember seeing the same for trans people, but in granblue fantasy some people still weaponized how Cagliostro was a born a man to make her mad, doesn’t matter how she looks or what she has down there, bigots will exist even in fantasy.
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JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
Makes me wanna link the thread where people were making the argument that wheelchair users and deaf people wouldn’t exist in fantasy settings.
yamanii@lemmy.world 7 months ago
psud@aussie.zone 7 months ago
Fantasy worlds really often have sex as something one may select. It doesn’t serve the non-binary folk all that well, but there are several ways to pick either of the binary options
Jolteon@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Another problem is that in order to have magic that is capable of fully transitioning someone, you basically need to enable full body modification for other purposes as well, so transhumanism becomes something you need to represent in your story (unless you just add arbitrary and meaningless restrictions to the magic).
ICastFist@programming.dev 7 months ago
They can totally exist in fantasy settings, but there has to be a reason why magic “doesn’t work” to heal that. “It’s a curse” or “there’s a powerful magical will” or whatever.
If it’s DnD, it can easily escalate into whether Reincarnation “fixes” that, since the person is getting a new body of a possibly different race.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
There are deaf people in our world that refuse cochlear implants. Why the hell does magic need a reason to “not work” when people IRL prefer to stay the way they are?
ICastFist@programming.dev 7 months ago
Heal in both D&D5e and Pathfinder heals, among other things, Blinded and Deafened statuses. Your deaf character is the target of a heal spell. Rules as written, your character can hear again, whether you’d like to or not, end of story.
Why the hell does magic need a reason to “not work”
For the same reason any D&D story dealing with an actual disease epidemic needs a deus ex for Lesser Restoration, Heal or other spells to fail to cure said disease.
people IRL prefer to stay the way they are
And some would rather be cured IRL. Your point is completely irrelevant because it’s not about choice, the question is “why the people wanting to be cured haven’t been cured yet?”
The funny thing is that in low fantasy settings where magical healing is very limited, this whole discussion doesn’t exist.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
My dude, people exist IN OUR WORLD with EASILY TREATABLE CONDITIONS that for a variety of reasons HAVE NOT BEEN TREATED. It’s not a head scratcher.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
Nope. Stop with the fucking ableist erasure of differently abled individuals. it’s just a fun little game to play with friends. It doesn’t need fuckingnmassive essays of world building.
WiseThat@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Yep, it’s fine to roleplay a character who can’t be cured, or to prefers it that way. Just as it’s also fine to have a tabaxi be a vegan, because it’s a fantasy and players are allowed to express themselves however they wish.
Even in a setting where having your head chopped off is a minor inconvenience for anyone who has 1000g, there would still be people who choose not to have an amputation healed for any number of reasons, and thay choice should be up to them.
veniasilente@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Imagine walking into a lemmy board on the internet and trying to tell people something doesn’t need fucking massive essays of worldbuilding…
Jolteon@lemmy.zip 7 months ago
Essays of world building are basically the bread and butter of D&D.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 months ago
I’m saying you don’t need that to explain the existence of differently abled individuals in a fantasy setting when there are curable conditions people have in the real world that go uncured.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 7 months ago
Just because there is magic doesn’t mean everyone can afford it.
Also interesting to think about, if a deaf person has a magic amulet that grants different hearing, are they no longer a deaf person or are they a deaf person with a magical aid?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I think they’d still identify as deaf for community purposes.
EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I think they would do the exact opposite for community purposes. In a medieval fantasy world they might be the only deaf person in their small town, so they don’t wanna be ostrasized for being different and weird.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
Sure, until they found their people, and then they’d start a community.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 months ago
That’s basically hearing aids or cochlear implants and the thing is sound is uncomfortable if you’re used to not sound.
Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Are they naturally deaf or just hard of hearing? A deaf person would get a zero to sound checks no matter what.