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• Default_Defect@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Yes, but much worse.

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  • Bonifratz@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    There’s nothing worse in terms of pronunciation than English. French is silly for writing twice as much as what’s pronounced, but at least it mostly follows some rules.

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    • Default_Defect@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Doesn’t english just get that from being three languages in a trench coat?

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      • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        One of which is French, yes.

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      • grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        “The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.” –James D. Nicoll

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      • NightAuthor@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        What’s so wild is that, as a native speaker, there are SO many rules and edge cases and exceptions…. And I know them by heart without ever being told them explicitly. First example that comes to mind is the whole order of adjectives…. We say big fluffy purple cat, never purple fluffy big cat.

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      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Also, people love to break what little rules it adheres to and claim “eh, it’s already broken, so let me do this dumb thing a little further because Alicia said it was hella fetch.” And that’s why people can’t pluralize “email” properly and why everyone under 40 knows no adverb but “literally”.

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    • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I learnt English as my second (technically third) language. Other two languages I know are written and spoken exactly the same.

      So take it from me, French pronunciation can be baffling or straight up ridiculous at times. English has got nothing on it. I don’t care if French aren’t heureux at this comment.

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      • herrvogel@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        They are baffling and ridiculous but they are consistent in that. Once you learn one baffling and ridiculous rule, you can successfully apply that rule to correctly pronounce almost any new word you’ve never encountered before. Eaux is a stupid fucking way of writing “o” to be sure, but at least you will always immediately know how to pronounce it without ever having to guess, or hear it from someone else. Meanwhile in English you write “read” but you pronounce it “read”.

        There are of course exceptions, but show me one language in the world that has none.

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      • Bonifratz@feddit.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Well, I learned English as my second and French as my third language, and I see it the other way around. Agree to disagree I guess.

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    • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I am now very competent in Spanish and making no progress in France. Real speakers sound nothing like the classroom. It’s so frustrating. I feel like the French are all mumbling with Nutella in their mouths, but my tutor is clear as a bell.

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      • someguy3@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Spanish is that much easier than French? Interesting.

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      French literally has rules with more exceptions than things that apply to the rule.

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      • DABDA@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I think that’s also the case in English with “I before E, except after C.”

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  • franklin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    I am currently learning French and what gets me is how much are the French language is contextual for its meaning

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    • Rodeo@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Like English?

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      • franklin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Yes languages borrow from other languages. I was more pointing out that from the point of view from of a perspective student it’s a barrier I hadn’t considered.

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  • BuryMyHorse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Worsechester?

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    • Default_Defect@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      wustah

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• samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

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• Klear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Exactly like English!

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• thesporkeffect@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Ouaïeux

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