Comment on Putin too, for some reason

abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I wish I could create an alternate reality where anarchy reigns and transport all these “anarchists” to it and watch them drown the entire reality in their tears as they suffer and die.

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  • CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social ⁨58⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Interesting how your first thought is murder, isn’t it?

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    • testfactor@lemmy.world ⁨28⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I think that you’re not wrong, but the historical way that these societies have handled antisocial behavior is via lynchings. I don’t know that this model works if you don’t bring back lynchings, which I personally find unpalatable.

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      • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Would you rather a small group of power hungry psychopath oligarchs be in charge of the lynchings according to their isolated, self-serving, sheltered, and privileged reasonings in order to maintain their status and authority? Or do you think there is some stupid super intelligence governor floating out there somewhere we need to appease for some stupid reason so it’ll invite us to the private party it’s throwing that doesn’t like it when we do that?

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  • abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Without the Government and Capitalism, everything would collapse and it would just be like Mad Max!

    If Bosses and Cops are the only thing stopping anyone from going all Mad Max, then we would already be in that Anarchist Dystopia you’re imagining because the Mad Max Style Hooligans you imagine wouldn’t care about what the Law or some Rich Guy says.

    If the only thing stopping you from going all Mad Max are cops and bosses, then I think you should examine why and maybe, perhaps, seek help, because the average person doesn’t go about going “I wanna kill people but the only thing stopping me is the Cops.”

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    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Not sure what you’re going on about. You seem to have quoted something I didn’t say.

      I’m not sure if you thought I meant I actually want to kill anarchists using magic. Clearly I was being sarcastic and just want them to learn from suffering under the form of existence they appear to want so badly.

      And to be crystal clear, while I do have many qualms with law enforcement, I promise you that if law enforcement ceased to exist tomorrow our society would very quickly begin to collapse. Because there are A LOT of criminals out there and way, way more normal people that would become criminals out of desperation or opportunity if society began collapsing. To disagree with that is an admission of not being remotely aware of how many criminals actually exist or any familiarity with the human condition.

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    • testfactor@lemmy.world ⁨30⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      One could argue that most of the people who want to go all Mad Max do in fact break the law to do so, and are now in jail. Or do you think that disturbed people who want to do harm to the general populace don’t exist?

      I think it’s a bit straw-man-y to say that people who argue that “without law there would be chaos” are saying they want chaos. In fact, it’s the opposite. There is clearly some minority slice of humanity that just wants to cause others harm, and we need some sort of structure/order to keep those people from causing harm. I find that most people advocating for anarchy don’t really have a good answer to how we handle antisocial behavior.

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  • blackbelt352@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    My vision for anarchy basically functions like an average friend group, there is no “leader” of the group, anyone can organize an event, whether its a hangout, a dinner, or asking for help with a project. Nobody is forced to go to any given event. If a conflict comes up, then we talk about it like adults, and come to a beneficial resolution. Each person chips in in their own ways. Honestly its pretty fucking awesome and I think the world would be a lot better place if we had this mentality.

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    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      While your version of anarchy works on a micro level amongst friends, unfortunately, it would not work on a macro national level. Or even state level. Or even city level.

      You’re also basically describing voting. People come together and express their opinion and the opinion with the most support wins.

      So, not anarchism.

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    • testfactor@lemmy.world ⁨36⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      What happens when someone selfishly refuses to contribute to the common good? Or worse, actively attempts to disrupt it?

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      • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

        Then their ideology completely falls apart. Lol.

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• diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Well, easier to overthrow one than the other.

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  • CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social ⁨58⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Is it tho

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    • testfactor@lemmy.world ⁨37⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Ah, yes, I forgot. Those two famously still in power people… checks notes… Barak Obama and Joe Biden.

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• DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  Anarchism? Wasn’t that made illegal in the US after the Haymarket bombing?

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  • abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    Well you see the thing about Anarchists…

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